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		<title>Mjb: clarify that the first part is a quote</title>
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		<updated>2013-11-10T22:31:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;clarify that the first part is a quote&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[the article says:]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:So when you play a CD through your computer, or use CD ripping software to get the audio content, you&amp;#039;re probably getting the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;pre-emphasized audio data&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Since it has not been de-emphasized, it will probably sound too &amp;quot;bright&amp;quot; and/or hissy (although your audio equipment or your damaged ears may keep you from noticing). Therefore you may want to do de-emphasis processing yourself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:So when you play a CD through your computer, or use CD ripping software to get the audio content, you&amp;#039;re probably getting the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;pre-emphasized audio data&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Since it has not been de-emphasized, it will probably sound too &amp;quot;bright&amp;quot; and/or hissy (although your audio equipment or your damaged ears may keep you from noticing). Therefore you may want to do de-emphasis processing yourself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Mjb</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Talk:Pre-emphasis&amp;diff=25550&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Mjb: +reply</title>
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		<updated>2013-11-10T22:30:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;+reply&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you got the pre-emphasized data, it would sound right, and you wouldn&amp;#039;t want to de-emphasize it. Was the above supposed to say &amp;quot;you&amp;#039;re probably getting the emphasized audio data&amp;quot;? Maybe the author was thinking &amp;#039;pre-de-emphasized&amp;#039; and didn&amp;#039;t properly cancel the negations. [[Special:Contributions/70.124.88.175|70.124.88.175]] 21:46, 5 November 2013 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;If you got the pre-emphasized data, it would sound right, and you wouldn&amp;#039;t want to de-emphasize it. Was the above supposed to say &amp;quot;you&amp;#039;re probably getting the emphasized audio data&amp;quot;? Maybe the author was thinking &amp;#039;pre-de-emphasized&amp;#039; and didn&amp;#039;t properly cancel the negations. [[Special:Contributions/70.124.88.175|70.124.88.175]] 21:46, 5 November 2013 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:The language of the CDDA spec simply refers to the audio on the CD being &quot;with pre-emphasis&quot; or &quot;without pre-emphasis.&quot; If it&#039;s with the pre-emphasis, then no, it won&#039;t sound right unless the reverse EQ is applied. Regardless, I don&#039;t know why they call it &quot;pre&quot;-emphasis instead of just emphasis.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:How we go about crafting the verb forms to explain this is up to us. If the audio on the CD is &quot;with pre-emphasis,&quot; then I think it&#039;s reasonable to say that the audio is &quot;pre-emphasized.&quot; It&#039;s just as reasonable to say it&#039;s &quot;emphasized.&quot; But you&#039;re right in that &quot;pre-emphasized&quot; is inconsistent with the terminology we chose for the reversal of the process: &quot;de-emphasis&quot; and &quot;de-emphasized&quot; rather than &quot;de-pre-emphasis&quot; and &quot;de-pre-emphasized.&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I don&#039;t know. I&#039;ll go with the flow. If you want to change it, go ahead... —[[User:Mjb|Mjb]] 23:30, 10 November 2013 (CET)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>70.124.88.175: pre-emphasized, you mean emphasized?</title>
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		<updated>2013-11-05T20:46:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;pre-emphasized, you mean emphasized?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;:So when you play a CD through your computer, or use CD ripping software to get the audio content, you&amp;#039;re probably getting the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;pre-emphasized audio data&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Since it has not been de-emphasized, it will probably sound too &amp;quot;bright&amp;quot; and/or hissy (although your audio equipment or your damaged ears may keep you from noticing). Therefore you may want to do de-emphasis processing yourself.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you got the pre-emphasized data, it would sound right, and you wouldn&amp;#039;t want to de-emphasize it. Was the above supposed to say &amp;quot;you&amp;#039;re probably getting the emphasized audio data&amp;quot;? Maybe the author was thinking &amp;#039;pre-de-emphasized&amp;#039; and didn&amp;#039;t properly cancel the negations. [[Special:Contributions/70.124.88.175|70.124.88.175]] 21:46, 5 November 2013 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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