Talk:Lossless comparison - Revision history

98.141.72.235: /* Page discussion */

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Page discussion

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	I updated slightly the formatting of this page and added some standard sections.--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] 16:10, 5 September 2006 (CDT)		I updated slightly the formatting of this page and added some standard sections.--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] 16:10, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

			Two questions that come to mind: (1) Is "transcompression" a commonly accepted term, and (2) Does transcompression affect tagging (and if so, how)?

	== methinks that ==		== methinks that ==

88.106.16.45: Undo revision 25788 by Aswe4r (talk) reviewed commit no value (Trolling)

2014-05-09T09:32:36Z

Undo revision 25788 by Aswe4r (talk) reviewed commit no value (Trolling)

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	:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] <small>'''([[User_talk:Beto\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Beto\|contribs]])'''</small> 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)		:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] <small>'''([[User_talk:Beto\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Beto\|contribs]])'''</small> 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

	~~== Is this a joke? ==~~

	~~No, really. Very fast / fast / very slow. What are you, 5 yo? Because this is NOT how you should be presenting the precise information.~~
	~~I was quite astonished to see the uber-detailed comparison with absolute values of size and time at some russian forum bit.ly/1iYVw7z~~
	~~Take a page out of that guy's book or something.~~

Aswe4r: /* Is this a joke? */ new section

2014-05-04T18:23:20Z

Is this a joke?: new section

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	:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] <small>'''([[User_talk:Beto\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Beto\|contribs]])'''</small> 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)		:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] <small>'''([[User_talk:Beto\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Beto\|contribs]])'''</small> 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

			== Is this a joke? ==

			No, really. Very fast / fast / very slow. What are you, 5 yo? Because this is NOT how you should be presenting the precise information.
			I was quite astonished to see the uber-detailed comparison with absolute values of size and time at some russian forum bit.ly/1iYVw7z
			Take a page out of that guy's book or something.

79.133.155.243 at 18:45, 31 January 2013

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			Why RKAU - not in test?? It is better then flac, and comparable to optimFrog!

Beto at 14:24, 19 October 2006

2006-10-19T14:24:59Z

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	::::::::::Now about ^that (fixing the table), I want inputs from the wiki maintainers; as it seemed that some (at least, you) object to the removal of color-templates, I ask input whether to revert to template-based table, as previously. But I put in a note, if we do want to revert to the template-based table, the color-templates themselves needs to be cleaned.		::::::::::Now about ^that (fixing the table), I want inputs from the wiki maintainers; as it seemed that some (at least, you) object to the removal of color-templates, I ask input whether to revert to template-based table, as previously. But I put in a note, if we do want to revert to the template-based table, the color-templates themselves needs to be cleaned.
	::::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 15:59, 13 October 2006 (CDT)		::::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 15:59, 13 October 2006 (CDT)

			:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto\|Beto]] <small>'''([[User_talk:Beto\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/Beto\|contribs]])'''</small> 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)

Pepoluan: /* BlaBlaTable */

2006-10-13T20:59:37Z

BlaBlaTable

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	:::::::::About the <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> pair: that is a workaround to an issue Jan and I experienced on an earlier version of Mediawiki. If it's gone, all the better.		:::::::::About the <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> pair: that is a workaround to an issue Jan and I experienced on an earlier version of Mediawiki. If it's gone, all the better.
	:::::::::As for html colorwords: I don't trust browsers to stick to standards. I'd rather trust hex. ~ rja		:::::::::As for html colorwords: I don't trust browsers to stick to standards. I'd rather trust hex. ~ rja

			::::::::::Gee, it seems I must always use the most explicit, non-ambiguous sentences with you, Roberto. Alright, here goes.
			::::::::::I don't want to debate about "thick-skulled" or "complex templates" or such. Not like, um, "E" and "H" have been doing lately that is.
			::::::::::I just tried to fix the table in a way that cleans up the code, and IMO is cleaner and better than a template-hack.
			::::::::::Now about ^that (fixing the table), I want inputs from the wiki maintainers; as it seemed that some (at least, you) object to the removal of color-templates, I ask input whether to revert to template-based table, as previously. But I put in a note, if we do want to revert to the template-based table, the color-templates themselves needs to be cleaned.
			::::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 15:59, 13 October 2006 (CDT)

Rjamorim: /* BlaBlaTable */

2006-10-12T22:52:55Z

BlaBlaTable

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	::::::::Then, since most of the colors are now standard HTML colorwords, why not put it directly into the table?		::::::::Then, since most of the colors are now standard HTML colorwords, why not put it directly into the table?
	::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 12:09, 11 October 2006 (CDT)		::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 12:09, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

			:::::::::If you don't want to debate, why did you even ask about the new table at the talk page?
			:::::::::About the <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> pair: that is a workaround to an issue Jan and I experienced on an earlier version of Mediawiki. If it's gone, all the better.
			:::::::::As for html colorwords: I don't trust browsers to stick to standards. I'd rather trust hex. ~ rja

Pepoluan: You still don't get me, Roberto...

2006-10-11T17:09:28Z

You still don't get me, Roberto...

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	:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.		:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.
	:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? The colors are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja		:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? The colors are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja

			::::::::'''''<nowiki></nowiki>sigh''''' I don't want to start another debate here. I'm just saying that, okay, if you want to use templates, we'll revert. But '''the templates themselves''' need to be simplified. Here, let me show you [[Template:Orange]]:
			:::::::: <code><nowiki></nowiki> ! align="right" style="background: #FF9900" \|</code>
			::::::::What's the use for the <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> pair there? And why <code>align="right"</code>? Both of them can go. The first one is useless, the second one can be put in the table's definition. Thus, we can (and should!) simplify [[Template:Orange]] to:
			:::::::: <code>! style="background: #FF9900" \|</code>
			::::::::Then again, we can simplify it to:
			:::::::: <code>! style="background: orange" \|</code>
			::::::::Then, since most of the colors are now standard HTML colorwords, why not put it directly into the table?
			::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 12:09, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

Rjamorim: /* BlaBlaTable */

2006-10-10T00:00:56Z

BlaBlaTable

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	:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.		:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.
	:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? ~~They~~ are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja		:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? The colors are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja

Rjamorim: /* BlaBlaTable */

2006-10-10T00:00:30Z

BlaBlaTable

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	::::::'''''<nowiki></nowiki>sigh''''' Roberto, I wrote "'''the templates are too complex'''", <u>not</u> "'''using templates are too complex'''". In other words, what I'm trying to say (and I hope this gets into your thick skull :lol:j/k: {{smiley\|)}}) is that we should simplify the templates. Comprende, RareJim? {{smiley\|;}} --[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 12:25, 9 October 2006 (CDT)		::::::'''''<nowiki></nowiki>sigh''''' Roberto, I wrote "'''the templates are too complex'''", <u>not</u> "'''using templates are too complex'''". In other words, what I'm trying to say (and I hope this gets into your thick skull :lol:j/k: {{smiley\|)}}) is that we should simplify the templates. Comprende, RareJim? {{smiley\|;}} --[[User:Pepoluan\|pepoluan]] <small>'''([[User_talk:pepoluan\|talk]] \| [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan\|contribs]])'''</small> 12:25, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

			:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.
			:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? They are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja