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Porcuswiki: Table: Error handling, Tagging ambiguity, OS support (Monkey's ++). Each codec: several fixes. Overhaul still overdue?

2024-05-20T08:20:30Z

Table: Error handling, Tagging ambiguity, OS support (Monkey's ++). Each codec: several fixes. Overhaul still overdue?

Ktf: Monkey's Audio is 3-clause BSD now

2023-08-11T06:47:25Z

Monkey's Audio is 3-clause BSD now

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	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #~~FFCC66~~" \| ~~no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}~~		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no		\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no

Bogozo: Edited FLAC Cons an Pros according to version 1.4.3 abilities

2023-07-23T12:12:18Z

Edited FLAC Cons an Pros according to version 1.4.3 abilities

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	* Error robustness		* Error robustness
	* Streaming support		* Streaming support
	* Supports [[multichannel]]. Limited to 8 channels. Channel mask in [https://~~docs~~.microsoft.com/ru-ru/windows/win32/api/mmreg/ns-mmreg-waveformatextensible WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE] is supported but support is not included in official specification. With reference encoder undocumented option --channel-map=none is needed to encode some non-standard layouts (e.g. 4.1; FL,FR,FC,BC), but no special options are needed with ffmpeg's encoder.		* Supports [[multichannel]]. Limited to 8 channels. Channel mask in [https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/mmreg/ns-mmreg-waveformatextensible WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE] is supported.
	* Supports [[high resolution]]s		* Supports [[high resolution]]s
	* Tagging support (FLAC tags)		* Tagging support (FLAC tags)
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	''' FLAC cons '''		''' FLAC cons '''
	* No hybrid/lossy mode (but is [[LossyWAV]] compatible)		* No hybrid/lossy mode (but is [[LossyWAV]] compatible)
	* Does not handle 32-bit float ~~and there is no encoder that can render to 32-bit integer~~		* Does not handle 32-bit float

	''' FLAC Other features '''		''' FLAC Other features '''

Ktf: Remove experimental status of FLAC-in-MP4 muxing

2022-08-09T07:36:50Z

Remove experimental status of FLAC-in-MP4 muxing

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	* Supports embedded CUE sheets (with [http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__no_cuesheet_tags limitations])		* Supports embedded CUE sheets (with [http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__no_cuesheet_tags limitations])
	* Includes MD5 hashes for quick integrity checking as standard		* Includes MD5 hashes for quick integrity checking as standard
	* Fits the [[Ogg]], [[Matroska]] and [[MP4]] ~~(experimental)~~ containers		* Fits the [[Ogg]], [[Matroska]] and [[MP4]] containers

	=== Monkey's Audio (APE) ===		=== Monkey's Audio (APE) ===

Ktf: Added 'fits in container' line to table

2022-06-05T14:09:19Z

Added 'fits in container' line to table

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 | style="background: #00FF00" | Win/Mac/Linux
 | style="background: #00FF00" | All
 |}

Ktf: Fix background color of WMA having an open-source decoder implementation

2022-05-27T06:08:49Z

Fix background color of WMA having an open-source decoder implementation

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	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #~~FF9900~~" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no		\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes

Ktf: Update speeds and compression in table according to latest comparison with CDDA material

2022-05-27T06:07:07Z

Update speeds and compression in table according to latest comparison with CDDA material

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	! width="90px" \| [[#OptimFROG (OFR)\|OptimFROG]]		! width="90px" \| [[#OptimFROG (OFR)\|OptimFROG]]
	! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]		! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]
	\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if ~~> 150x~~, fast if ~~>75x~~, average if ~~>40x~~, slow if ~~>20x~~, very slow if <~~20x~~ * -->		\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if < 2%, fast if < 5%, average if < 10%, slow if < 20%, very slow if < 50% * -->
	<!-- * Numbers are taken from most recent CDDA comparison under 'External links' * -->		<!-- * Numbers are taken from most recent CDDA comparison under 'External links' * -->
	\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}		\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}
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	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	~~\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast~~
	~~\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast~~
	~~\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| slow~~
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\|- <!-- * For decoding speed thresholds are ~~doubled~~, i.e., very fast if ~~>300x~~, fast if ~~>150x~~ etc * -->		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\|- <!-- * For decoding speed thresholds are one step down, i.e., very fast if < 1%, fast if < 2%, average if < 5% etc * -->
	\| Decoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}		\| Decoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
	~~\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast~~		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| ~~slow~~
	~~\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| average~~
	~~\| style="background: #FF9900" \| very slow~~
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
	\|- <!-- * Thresholds for compression are at 56% and 58% * -->		\|- <!-- * Thresholds for compression are at 51% and 53% * -->
	\| Compression{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}{{ref label\|comp\|B\|B}}		\| Compression{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}{{ref label\|comp\|B\|B}}
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 57.0%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.0%
	\| style="background: #~~CCFFCC~~" \| 57.8%		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 53.2%
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 57.1%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.6%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 56.0%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 50.5%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 55.1%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 50.7%
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 58.4%		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 53.8%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 54.6%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 49.6%
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 56.6%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.1%
	\|-		\|-
	\| # presets		\| # presets
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	{\|		{\|
	\|-		\|-
	\|{{note label\|speed\|A\|A}} Speed and Compression are based on '''each encoder's default settings''' and taken from [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html this comparison].		\|{{note label\|speed\|A\|A}} Speed and Compression are based on '''each encoder's default settings''' and taken from the last CDDA results of [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html this comparison].
	\|-		\|-
	\|{{note label\|comp\|B\|B}} The Compression ratio is compressed size/uncompressed size * 100. So, lower is better.		\|{{note label\|comp\|B\|B}} The Compression ratio is compressed size/uncompressed size * 100. So, lower is better.
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	''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''		''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''

	* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music, with separate sections on hi-res and multichannel material (last updated 2022-03-30)		* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music, with separate sections on hi-res and multichannel material (last updated 2022-05-26)
	* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)		* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)
	* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>		* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>

Ktf: Update data of most recent external comparison

2022-03-30T18:29:21Z

Update data of most recent external comparison

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	! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]		! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]
	\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if > 150x, fast if >75x, average if >40x, slow if >20x, very slow if <20x * -->		\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if > 150x, fast if >75x, average if >40x, slow if >20x, very slow if <20x * -->
			<!-- * Numbers are taken from most recent CDDA comparison under 'External links' * -->
	\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}		\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
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	''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''		''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''

	* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music (last updated ~~2015~~-01-05)		* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music, with separate sections on hi-res and multichannel material (last updated 2022-03-30)
	* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)		* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)
	* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>		* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>

Ktf: Add link to WMA lossless, add remark about ffmpeg

2021-11-09T17:30:16Z

Add link to WMA lossless, add remark about ffmpeg

Supermariofan67: Source available != open source. APE is proprietary and nonfree, but a third-party FOSS decoder (apedec.c) is available as part of ffmpeg

2021-06-08T17:50:30Z

Source available != open source. APE is proprietary and nonfree, but a third-party FOSS decoder (apedec.c) is available as part of ffmpeg

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	\| style="background: #~~00FF00~~" \| ~~yes~~		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|tak_os\|F\|F}}
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	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #~~FFCC66~~" \| ~~no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}~~		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
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	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #~~FF9900~~" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no		\| style="background: #FF9900" \| no
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes

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	! width="90px" \| [[#OptimFROG (OFR)\|OptimFROG]]		! width="90px" \| [[#OptimFROG (OFR)\|OptimFROG]]
	! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]		! width="90px" \| [[#True Audio (TTA)\|TTA]]
	\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if ~~> 150x~~, fast if ~~>75x~~, average if ~~>40x~~, slow if ~~>20x~~, very slow if <~~20x~~ * -->		\|- <!-- * Encoding speed is very fast if < 2%, fast if < 5%, average if < 10%, slow if < 20%, very slow if < 50% * -->
	<!-- * Numbers are taken from most recent CDDA comparison under 'External links' * -->		<!-- * Numbers are taken from most recent CDDA comparison under 'External links' * -->
	\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}		\| Encoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}
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	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	~~\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast~~
	~~\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast~~
	~~\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| slow~~
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\|- <!-- * For decoding speed thresholds are ~~doubled~~, i.e., very fast if ~~>300x~~, fast if ~~>150x~~ etc * -->		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\|- <!-- * For decoding speed thresholds are one step down, i.e., very fast if < 1%, fast if < 2%, average if < 5% etc * -->
	\| Decoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}		\| Decoding speed{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast
			\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
	~~\| style="background: #00FF00" \| very fast~~		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| moderate
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| ~~slow~~
	~~\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| average~~
	~~\| style="background: #FF9900" \| very slow~~
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| fast
	\|- <!-- * Thresholds for compression are at 56% and 58% * -->		\|- <!-- * Thresholds for compression are at 51% and 53% * -->
	\| Compression{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}{{ref label\|comp\|B\|B}}		\| Compression{{ref label\|speed\|A\|A}}{{ref label\|comp\|B\|B}}
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 57.0%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.0%
	\| style="background: #~~CCFFCC~~" \| 57.8%		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 53.2%
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 57.1%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.6%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 56.0%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 50.5%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 55.1%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 50.7%
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 58.4%		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| 53.8%
	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 54.6%		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| 49.6%
	\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 56.6%		\| style="background: #CCFFCC" \| 52.1%
	\|-		\|-
	\| # presets		\| # presets
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	\|-		\|-
	\|{{note label\|speed\|A\|A}} Speed and Compression are based on '''each encoder's default settings''' and taken from [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html this comparison].		\|{{note label\|speed\|A\|A}} Speed and Compression are based on '''each encoder's default settings''' and taken from the last CDDA results of [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html this comparison].
	\|-		\|-
	\|{{note label\|comp\|B\|B}} The Compression ratio is compressed size/uncompressed size * 100. So, lower is better.		\|{{note label\|comp\|B\|B}} The Compression ratio is compressed size/uncompressed size * 100. So, lower is better.
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	''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''		''Sorted based on last '''update''' date.''

	* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music, with separate sections on hi-res and multichannel material (last updated 2022-03-30)		* [http://www.audiograaf.nl/downloads.html Martijn van Beurden's comparison] - tries to compare all codecs and settings with a balanced pool of music, with separate sections on hi-res and multichannel material (last updated 2022-05-26)
	* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)		* [http://www.squeezechart.com/audio.html Squeezechart audio] - tests as much codecs as possible, but not all their settings and with a limited test corpus (last updated 2013-10-31)
	* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>		* <s>[http://synthetic-soul.co.uk/comparison/lossless/index.asp Synthetic Soul's comparison] (last update 2007-07-28)</s>

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	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|tak_os\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|tak_os\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #~~00FF00~~" \| ~~yes~~		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|tak_os\|F\|F}}
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	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|~~tak_os~~\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
	\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|~~tak_os~~\|F\|F}}		\| style="background: #FFCC66" \| no{{ref label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}}
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	\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes		\| style="background: #00FF00" \| yes
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	\|{{note label\|multichannel_ape\|E\|E}} Since version 4.86		\|{{note label\|multichannel_ape\|E\|E}} Since version 4.86
	\|-		\|-
	\|{{note label\|~~tak_os~~\|F\|F}} Unofficial (but properly working) open source decoder is available as part of ffmpeg		\|{{note label\|ffmpeg_dec\|F\|F}} Unofficial (but properly working) open source decoder is available as part of ffmpeg
	== Codecs ==		== Codecs ==

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	https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff819508(v=vs.85).aspx		https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff819508(v=vs.85).aspx

	WMA Lossless is the lossless codec developed by Microsoft to be featured in their Windows Media codec portfolio.		[[Windows_Media_Audio#Windows_Media_Audio_Lossless\|WMA Lossless]] is the lossless codec developed by Microsoft to be featured in their Windows Media codec portfolio.

	''' WMAL pros '''		''' WMAL pros '''