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		<title>Porcuswiki: DTS-HD wasn&#039;t precisely described. And with the explanation, the last bullet item looked like the penultimate.</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DTS-HD wasn&amp;#039;t precisely described. And with the explanation, the last bullet item looked like the penultimate.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 17:52, 18 May 2024&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A lossless/lossy &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;hybrid&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; codec provides encoding to a [[lossless]] and a [[lossy]] stream simultaneously within the same format: it stores a lossy audio stream that can be played back as such, and then a correction stream such that decoding is lossless when both are present. The correction stream can be in the same file as the lossy stream, or in a separate file.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A lossless/lossy &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;hybrid&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; codec provides encoding to a [[lossless]] and a [[lossy]] stream simultaneously within the same format: it stores a lossy audio stream that can be played back as such, and then a correction stream such that decoding is lossless when both are present. The correction stream can be in the same file as the lossy stream, or in a separate file.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hybrid encoding can have a variety of purposes, at least including the following:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hybrid encoding can have a variety of purposes &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and methods&lt;/ins&gt;, at least including the following:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* For end-users to keep lossy versions (say, for portable use) to be copied without the time or computing effort needed to transcode lossy to lossless every time; rather than keeping two sets of files, one can maintain one single copy in one single library, such that e.g. tag updates need only be done once.  [[WavPack]] and [[OptimFROG]] provide for this option through their hybrid modes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* For end-users to keep lossy versions (say, for portable use) to be copied without the time or computing effort needed to transcode lossy to lossless every time; rather than keeping two sets of files, one can maintain one single copy in one single library, such that e.g. tag updates need only be done once.  [[WavPack]] and [[OptimFROG]] provide for this option through their hybrid modes.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A similar purpose, but where the output stream is automatically selected by a hardware or software application, for example defaulting to a lossy stream if the transmission cannot support the lossless - or possibly for DRM purposes.  In Blu-Ray, support for [[DTS]] (also often found in DVDs) is mandatory, and [[DTS-HD]] &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;will serve the &lt;/del&gt;DTS stream to players &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;which do not support &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;lossless stream &lt;/del&gt;- &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;or those &lt;/del&gt;players &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;will transmit &lt;/del&gt;the DTS stream &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;to e.g. AV receivers without &lt;/del&gt;DTS&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-HD support&lt;/del&gt;. The rarer [http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#MPEG-4_SLS MPEG-4 SLS] format has an [[AAC]] core &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;file &lt;/del&gt;and a correction &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;file&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* A similar purpose, but where the output stream is automatically selected by a hardware or software application, for example defaulting to a lossy stream if the transmission cannot support the lossless - or possibly for DRM purposes.  In Blu-Ray, support for [[DTS]] (also often found in DVDs) is mandatory, and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;the newer &lt;/ins&gt;[[DTS-HD]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;formats provide not only a &quot;core&quot; &lt;/ins&gt;DTS stream to &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;legacy &lt;/ins&gt;players&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, but also an &quot;extension&quot;/correction streams that &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot;HD&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;aware &lt;/ins&gt;players &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;can use for more audio information. In &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&quot;&lt;/ins&gt;DTS&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;-HD-MA&quot; version, the extension &lt;/ins&gt;stream &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;(together with the core &lt;/ins&gt;DTS &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;stream) will provide for losslessness&lt;/ins&gt;. The rarer [http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#MPEG-4_SLS MPEG-4 SLS] format has an [[AAC]] core &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;stream &lt;/ins&gt;and a correction &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;stream for losslessness&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;To &lt;/del&gt;retro-fit &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;a lossless option &lt;/del&gt;into a lossy format without breaking compatibility&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. This can be done by storing it &lt;/del&gt;the same way as a tag chunk&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, to be ignored by applications that don&#039;t support them&lt;/del&gt;. [[ATRAC]]&#039;s lossless mode and the short-lived [[Mp3HD]] were such retro-fits.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Other ways to &lt;/ins&gt;retro-fit &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;losslessness &lt;/ins&gt;into a lossy format without breaking compatibility&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;, include to store the correction not as a stream, but in &lt;/ins&gt;the same way as a tag chunk. [[ATRAC]]&#039;s lossless mode and the short-lived [[Mp3HD]] were such retro-fits&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. An Mp3 player would then treat this chunk as if it were an unknown tag, ignoring it&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Porcuswiki: Created page with &quot;A lossless/lossy &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;hybrid&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; codec provides encoding to a lossless and a lossy stream simultaneously within the same format: it stores a lossy audio stream that can...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;A lossless/lossy &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;hybrid&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; codec provides encoding to a &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Lossless&quot; title=&quot;Lossless&quot;&gt;lossless&lt;/a&gt; and a &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Lossy&quot; title=&quot;Lossy&quot;&gt;lossy&lt;/a&gt; stream simultaneously within the same format: it stores a lossy audio stream that can...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A lossless/lossy &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;hybrid&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; codec provides encoding to a [[lossless]] and a [[lossy]] stream simultaneously within the same format: it stores a lossy audio stream that can be played back as such, and then a correction stream such that decoding is lossless when both are present. The correction stream can be in the same file as the lossy stream, or in a separate file.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hybrid encoding can have a variety of purposes, at least including the following:&lt;br /&gt;
* For end-users to keep lossy versions (say, for portable use) to be copied without the time or computing effort needed to transcode lossy to lossless every time; rather than keeping two sets of files, one can maintain one single copy in one single library, such that e.g. tag updates need only be done once.  [[WavPack]] and [[OptimFROG]] provide for this option through their hybrid modes.&lt;br /&gt;
* A similar purpose, but where the output stream is automatically selected by a hardware or software application, for example defaulting to a lossy stream if the transmission cannot support the lossless - or possibly for DRM purposes.  In Blu-Ray, support for [[DTS]] (also often found in DVDs) is mandatory, and [[DTS-HD]] will serve the DTS stream to players which do not support the lossless stream - or those players will transmit the DTS stream to e.g. AV receivers without DTS-HD support. The rarer [http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#MPEG-4_SLS MPEG-4 SLS] format has an [[AAC]] core file and a correction file.&lt;br /&gt;
* To retro-fit a lossless option into a lossy format without breaking compatibility. This can be done by storing it the same way as a tag chunk, to be ignored by applications that don&amp;#039;t support them. [[ATRAC]]&amp;#039;s lossless mode and the short-lived [[Mp3HD]] were such retro-fits.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{navbox audio codecs}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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