Foobar2000:Components/VST 2.4 adapter (foo vst) - Revision history

TF3RDL at 02:03, 10 November 2023

2023-11-10T02:03:28Z

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	{{panel\|title=Deprecated component\|This component was deprecated in favor of a [[foobar2000:Components/VST 2.x/3.x Adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)\|new VST adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)]] developed by Peter Pawlowski.\|color=red}}		{{panel\|title=Deprecated component\|This component was deprecated in favor of a [[foobar2000:Components/VST 2.x/3.x Adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)\|new VST adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)]] developed by Peter Pawlowski. While you can use this component, it is recommended (especially new users) to use Peter's new VST adapter instead.\|color=red}}
	{{Foobar Component Infobox		{{Foobar Component Infobox
	\| name = VST 2.4 adapter		\| name = VST 2.4 adapter

TF3RDL: The developer abandoned this component as it would be effectively another foo_dsp_vst3

2023-11-10T01:56:46Z

The developer abandoned this component as it would be effectively another foo_dsp_vst3

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			{{panel\|title=Deprecated component\|This component was deprecated in favor of a [[foobar2000:Components/VST 2.x/3.x Adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)\|new VST adapter (foo_dsp_vst3)]] developed by Peter Pawlowski.\|color=red}}
	{{Foobar Component Infobox		{{Foobar Component Infobox
	\| name = VST 2.4 adapter		\| name = VST 2.4 adapter

TF3RDL: This component, while not being closed-source apart from some VST plugins, has been rendered obsolete by foo_dsp_vst3

2023-10-21T11:57:53Z

This component, while not being closed-source apart from some VST plugins, has been rendered obsolete by foo_dsp_vst3

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	~~[[Category:Foobar2000 Legacy DSP components\|Legacy DSP components]]~~
	{{Foobar Component Infobox		{{Foobar Component Infobox
	\| name = VST 2.4 adapter		\| name = VST 2.4 adapter
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	\| foobar2000_minimum = 1.0		\| foobar2000_minimum = 1.0
	\| foobar2000_ui_module =		\| foobar2000_ui_module =
			\| foobar2000_legacy = true
			\| foobar2000_architecture = x86 32-bit
	\| use = DSP		\| use = DSP
	\| license = ~~Proprietary freeware~~		\| license =
	}}		}}
	'''VST 2.4 adapter''' is a component which aims to allow Foobar2000 users to use VST 2.4 plug-ins equally with “native” ones. Thousands of freeware and commercial DSP plug-ins are available in this format.		'''VST 2.4 adapter''' is a component which aims to allow Foobar2000 users to use VST 2.4 plug-ins equally with “native” ones. Thousands of freeware and commercial DSP plug-ins are available in this format.

Zwolamed2: /* Limitations and known issues */ playing mono in one channel

2023-02-07T15:41:20Z

Limitations and known issues: playing mono in one channel

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	* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.		* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.
	* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.		* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.
			* At least older 0.9.0.3 version can cause playing mono files in only one channel

	Most of these problems are caused by diametrically opposite approaches to the management of DSP objects lifetime. In contrast to VST, Foobar2000 assumes plug-in's user interface to be highly decoupled from the DSP code and the most difficult task solved by the adapter is coupling things back. Actually, such kind of DSPs as analyzers in fb2k is even impossible due to lack of connection between the GUI and audio rountines (of course one can have analyzers in form of visualization, but it's out of processing chain then). Foobar2000 recreates DSP objects whenever settings or playback state is changed, while in VST plug-ins are supposed to be loaded only once and their settings are to be changed ''directly'' with either automation or a editor window. Also in VST, plug-ins rely on their host in respect of number of channels, but in Foobar2000 it's the other way round, i.e. the host renders as many channels as a plug-in has. Finally, VST host must provide a window for the plug-in to create a editor and it's not supposed to block windows underneath while Foobar2000 requires config windows to be modal, etc.		Most of these problems are caused by diametrically opposite approaches to the management of DSP objects lifetime. In contrast to VST, Foobar2000 assumes plug-in's user interface to be highly decoupled from the DSP code and the most difficult task solved by the adapter is coupling things back. Actually, such kind of DSPs as analyzers in fb2k is even impossible due to lack of connection between the GUI and audio rountines (of course one can have analyzers in form of visualization, but it's out of processing chain then). Foobar2000 recreates DSP objects whenever settings or playback state is changed, while in VST plug-ins are supposed to be loaded only once and their settings are to be changed ''directly'' with either automation or a editor window. Also in VST, plug-ins rely on their host in respect of number of channels, but in Foobar2000 it's the other way round, i.e. the host renders as many channels as a plug-in has. Finally, VST host must provide a window for the plug-in to create a editor and it's not supposed to block windows underneath while Foobar2000 requires config windows to be modal, etc.

Zwolamed2: download link repaired

2023-01-28T21:41:12Z

download link repaired

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	==Download==		==Download==
	See the attachment in the [~~http~~://~~www~~.~~hydrogenaudio.org/forums~~/index.php~~?showtopic=~~84947 first post of the discussion thread].		See the attachment in the [https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,84947.0.html first post of the discussion thread].

	==Features==		==Features==

Thorna at 11:38, 24 September 2022

2022-09-24T11:38:29Z

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			[[Category:Foobar2000 Legacy DSP components\|Legacy DSP components]]
	{{Foobar Component Infobox		{{Foobar Component Infobox
	\| name = VST 2.4 adapter		\| name = VST 2.4 adapter

Beardgoggles: Beardgoggles moved page Foobar2000:Components/VST adapter to Foobar2000:Components/VST 2.4 adapter (foo vst): Moved page to match actual component name

2019-07-20T09:52:09Z

Beardgoggles moved page Foobar2000:Components/VST adapter to Foobar2000:Components/VST 2.4 adapter (foo vst): Moved page to match actual component name

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Beardgoggles: Updated component infobox; minor reformatting.

2019-07-19T16:45:18Z

Updated component infobox; minor reformatting.

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	~~[[Category:Foobar2000 3rd-Party Components\|VST adapter]]~~
	{{Foobar Component Infobox		{{Foobar Component Infobox
	\| name = ~~foo_vst~~		\| name = VST 2.4 adapter
	\| screenshot = [[Image:Fb2k-vsts.png\|~~250px~~]]		\| screenshot = [[Image:Fb2k-vsts.png\|256px]]
	\| caption = VST 2.4 adapter		\| caption = VST 2.4 adapter
	\| ~~maintainer~~ = Yegor Petrov		\| module_name = foo_vst
	\| stable_release = 0.9.0.3		\| developer = Yegor Petrov
	\| preview_release = -		\| repository = [https://github.com/yegorpetrov/foo_vst GitHub]
	\| ~~foobar_version~~ = 1.0+		\| released = {{start date and age\|2010\|11\|13}}
	\| use = ~~VST plug-ins as native Foobar2000 DSPs~~		\| released_ref =
	\| license = Proprietary freeware		\| stable_release = 0.9.0.3
	~~\| website = None~~		\| stable_release_date = 2011-03-05
	~~\| discussion_thread = [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84947 Discussion and download page]~~		\| preview_release =
			\| preview_release_date =
			\| foobar2000_minimum = 1.0
			\| foobar2000_ui_module =
			\| use = DSP
			\| license = Proprietary freeware
	}}		}}
	~~{{fb2k}}~~
	'''VST 2.4 adapter''' is a component which aims to allow Foobar2000 users to use VST 2.4 plug-ins equally with “native” ones. Thousands of freeware and commercial DSP plug-ins are available in this format.		'''VST 2.4 adapter''' is a component which aims to allow Foobar2000 users to use VST 2.4 plug-ins equally with “native” ones. Thousands of freeware and commercial DSP plug-ins are available in this format.
	=Usage=		=Usage=
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	Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86) may be required for versions below 0.8.1		Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package (x86) may be required for versions below 0.8.1

	=Download=		==Download==
	See the attachment in the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84947 first post of the discussion thread].		See the attachment in the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=84947 first post of the discussion thread].

	=Features=		==Features==
	The component has support for the following feature set:		The component has support for the following feature set:
	* Multiple instances		* Multiple instances
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	Given all this, it must be clear that something had to be sacrificed for the sake of features listed above in the article. The adapter keeps track of current DSP chain to ensure proper threading and gapless playback, it abuses programming language features to overcome “one DSP service per class” principle, it adds random data to presets and looks for a window title before opening a editor to distinguish different instances of the same VST effect, it has advanced settings to deal with some other problems as well. In many ways the adapter's reliability is limited by these tricks, yet there are many faulty VST plug-ins around.		Given all this, it must be clear that something had to be sacrificed for the sake of features listed above in the article. The adapter keeps track of current DSP chain to ensure proper threading and gapless playback, it abuses programming language features to overcome “one DSP service per class” principle, it adds random data to presets and looks for a window title before opening a editor to distinguish different instances of the same VST effect, it has advanced settings to deal with some other problems as well. In many ways the adapter's reliability is limited by these tricks, yet there are many faulty VST plug-ins around.

	=Important notes=		==Important notes==
	* The adapter doesn't scan plug-ins at startup nor does it track changes in the VST directory. If some plug-in is absent then the adapter bypasses its processing.		* The adapter doesn't scan plug-ins at startup nor does it track changes in the VST directory. If some plug-in is absent then the adapter bypasses its processing.
	* The component stores its settings in a separate binary file because of API limitations.		* The component stores its settings in a separate binary file because of API limitations.

	=Settings=		==Settings==
	This component has only advanced settings placed in the corresponding section of Foobar2000 preferences. Depending on the component version they can be found either in the Playback or VST category (the latter is true for v0.6+). All the problems that mentioned here are caused by the differences between Foobar2000 and VST approaches to DSP implementation.		This component has only advanced settings placed in the corresponding section of Foobar2000 preferences. Depending on the component version they can be found either in the Playback or VST category (the latter is true for v0.6+). All the problems that mentioned here are caused by the differences between Foobar2000 and VST approaches to DSP implementation.
	; ''Declicker size (256*n samples, 4 by default)''		; ''Declicker size (256*n samples, 4 by default)''
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	: The delay is needed to suppress excessive unload-load cycles between tracks, i.e. to keep VST plug-ins loaded as it is supposed to be for them. In 0.8 the [un]loading strategy was revamped and this setting isn't necessary anymore.		: The delay is needed to suppress excessive unload-load cycles between tracks, i.e. to keep VST plug-ins loaded as it is supposed to be for them. In 0.8 the [un]loading strategy was revamped and this setting isn't necessary anymore.

	=Change log=		==Change log==
	'''0.9.0.3'''		'''0.9.0.3'''
	* Fixed removal on the player updates		* Fixed removal on the player updates
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	* Initial release marked as v1.0. Very unstable.		* Initial release marked as v1.0. Very unstable.

	=External links=		==External links==
			* {{ha\|https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,84947.0.html}}
	* [http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php KVR: Audio Plug-in Database]		* [http://www.kvraudio.com/get.php KVR: Audio Plug-in Database]
	* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology VST in Wikipedia]		* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Studio_Technology VST in Wikipedia]

Yegor: /* Limitations and known issues */

2011-07-04T07:21:47Z

Limitations and known issues

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	* No support for VSTs without custom editors yet (to be implemented in the near future).		* No support for VSTs without custom editors yet (to be implemented in the near future).
	* Display goes ahead of audio by the [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Output#Buffer_Length\|size of the output buffer]].		* Display goes ahead of audio by the [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Output#Buffer_Length\|size of the output buffer]].
	* No x64 VST support: Foobar2000 is a 32-bit application.		* No x64 VST support: Foobar2000 is a 32-bit application. However, most effect plug-ins are available as 32 bit binaries.
	* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.		* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.
	* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.		* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.

Yegor: /* Limitations and known issues */

2011-04-07T10:54:45Z

Limitations and known issues

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	* FXP import/export		* FXP import/export
	==Limitations and known issues==		==Limitations and known issues==
	* ~~Supports only up~~ to 20 VST entries due to API limitations (not to be confused with particular instances in a chain).		* Limited to 20 VST entries due to API limitations (not to be confused with particular instances in a chain).
	* No support for VSTs without custom editors yet (to be implemented in the near future).		* No support for VSTs without custom editors yet (to be implemented in the near future).
	* Display goes ahead of audio by the [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Output#Buffer_Length\|size of the output buffer]].		* Display goes ahead of audio by the [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Output#Buffer_Length\|size of the output buffer]].
	* ~~Doesn't support~~ x64 VST ~~plug-ins~~: Foobar2000 is 32-bit application.		* No x64 VST support: Foobar2000 is a 32-bit application.
	* Smooth track switching must be disabled for some plug-ins to work (so they will be unloaded in the same thread as the one they were loaded in).
	* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.		* Modeless DSP configuration functionality isn't well synchronized with the DSP manager in the Preferences window.
	* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.		* There are two versions labeled as v1.0 and v1.0.01 which are actually v0.1 and v0.2.