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Foobar2000:Components/iPod Manager (foo dop)

2010-01-26T09:35:39Z

Norz: removed stub banner

=Description=

iPod manager component for foobar2000 0.9.5 or newer.

==== Features ====
* Load your iPod library into foobar2000.
* Send and remove files from / to your iPod
* Automatically convert files which are in a format not supported by the iPod
* Convert ReplayGain data into SoundCheck data
* Gapless playback for LAME MP3, Nero AAC and iTunes AAC on iPods supporting gapless playback
* Artwork support
* ...

==== Requirements ====
* iPod classic, nano, shuffle, touch or iphone. (check official website for details)
* for iPhones and iPods Touch: Apple Mobile Device Support, Quicktime, Apple Application Support (all from iTunes/Quicktime installer)
* for 2007 model iPods and newer: Apple iPod/iPhone driver (ie: part of Apple Mobile Device Support)
* Windows XP SP1 or newer

==== FAQ extracts ====

===== Is it safe to update to the latest version of iTunes? =====

Usually yes, but check the forum discussion thread for the most up-to-date information when a new version comes out. (At the time of writing the latest version of iTunes is 9.0.2).

Note: If you have enabled mobile devices support, make sure you close foobar2000 before updating iTunes.

===== Is it safe to update to the latest firmware for my device? =====

Usually minor versions are OK, but major versions for the iPod touch/iPhone are often problematic. Check the forum discussion thread for the most up-to-date information when a new version comes out.

=Link=
* [http://yuo.be/ipod.php Official Website]
* [http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start Documentation wiki on official website]
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=45160 Discussion thread]

Foobar2000:Components/iPod Manager (foo dop)

2010-01-26T09:34:38Z

Norz: /* Description */ added requirements (from official website) + some faq

{{stub}}

=Description=

iPod manager component for foobar2000 0.9.5 or newer.

==== Features ====
* Load your iPod library into foobar2000.
* Send and remove files from / to your iPod
* Automatically convert files which are in a format not supported by the iPod
* Convert ReplayGain data into SoundCheck data
* Gapless playback for LAME MP3, Nero AAC and iTunes AAC on iPods supporting gapless playback
* Artwork support
* ...

==== Requirements ====
* iPod classic, nano, shuffle, touch or iphone. (check official website for details)
* for iPhones and iPods Touch: Apple Mobile Device Support, Quicktime, Apple Application Support (all from iTunes/Quicktime installer)
* for 2007 model iPods and newer: Apple iPod/iPhone driver (ie: part of Apple Mobile Device Support)
* Windows XP SP1 or newer

==== FAQ extracts ====

===== Is it safe to update to the latest version of iTunes? =====

Usually yes, but check the forum discussion thread for the most up-to-date information when a new version comes out. (At the time of writing the latest version of iTunes is 9.0.2).

Note: If you have enabled mobile devices support, make sure you close foobar2000 before updating iTunes.

===== Is it safe to update to the latest firmware for my device? =====

Usually minor versions are OK, but major versions for the iPod touch/iPhone are often problematic. Check the forum discussion thread for the most up-to-date information when a new version comes out.

=Link=
* [http://yuo.be/ipod.php Official Website]
* [http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start Documentation wiki on official website]
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=45160 Discussion thread]

Foobar2000:Components/iPod Manager (foo dop)

2010-01-26T09:06:48Z

Norz: /* Description */ updated description from official website

Foobar2000:Components/iPod Manager (foo dop)

2010-01-26T08:58:29Z

Norz: /* Link */ added link to official wiki

{{stub}}

=Description=

Experimental iPod plugin for foobar2000 0.9.2+, currently in alpha version.

=Link=
* [http://yuo.be/ipod.php Official Website]
* [http://yuo.be/wiki/dop:start Documentation wiki on official website]
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=45160 Discussion thread]

Foobar2000:Components 0.9/Rating (foo rating)

2008-02-04T17:22:06Z

Norz: /* Description */ component banned

{{stub}}

=Description=

Display an icon in the systray with a tooltip popup from which you can choose a rating between 1 and 5 for the currently playing file.

Note: this component has been banned, due to SDK violation.

=Link=
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=50277 Discussion thread]

ITunes

2007-11-10T23:41:50Z

Norz: /* External links */ link to wikipedia page

{{title|iTunes}}
{{Infobox Software
| name = iTunes
| screenshot =
| caption = Popular extensive multimedia player
| maintainer = Apple Inc.
| stable_release = 7.0.2
| preview_release =
| operating_system = Windows, Mac OS/X
| use = Media Player
| license = Free, Proprietary
| website = http://www.apple.com/itunes/
}}
=Introduction=
'''iTunes''' is free music player and manager for Windows and Mac OS X. iTunes includes, CD ripping, encoding, and features an extensive library function. The [[iTunes Music Store]] is built into iTunes. It is the official software for transferring downloaded multimedia to and from the [[iPod]].

==Supported formats==

* [[MP3]], [[AAC]], [[Protected AAC]] (See [[DRM]]), [[Apple Lossless]], [[WAV]], and [[AIFF]]
* Audio CD
* via [http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html Xiph QT plugin]: [[Vorbis]], [[Speex]], [[FLAC]] (in Ogg container), [[Theora]] (video)

==Supported languages==

* English
* French
* German
* Spanish
* Italian
* Dutch
* Korean
* Norwegian
* Danish
* Swedish
* Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)

==Supported platforms==

* Windows 2000, XP
* MacOS X 10.1.5 and later
* [http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ Additional requirements]

==External links==
* [http://www.apple.com/itunes/ Official iTunes homepage]
* [http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ Official download page]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes Wikipedia article]

[[Category:Media Players|iTunes]]

ITunes

2007-01-24T22:31:57Z

Norz: Xiph QT Plugin to play Vorbis, FLAC, etc

{{title|iTunes}}

'''iTunes''' is free music player and manager for Windows and MacOS X. Includes CD ripping, encoding and features an extensive library function. The [[iTunes Music Store]] is built into iTunes. It is the official software for working with music on the [[iPod]].

[http://www.apple.com/itunes/ Homepage] -
[http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ Download]

Supported formats:

* [[MP3]], [[AAC]], [[Protected AAC]] (See [[DRM]]), [[Apple Lossless]], [[WAV]], and [[AIFF]]
* Audio CD
* via [http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/download.html Xiph QT plugin]: [[Vorbis]], [[Speex]], [[FLAC]] (in ogg container), [[Theora]] (video)

Supported languages:

* English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Korean, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish and Chinese (Simplified and Traditional)

Supported systems:

* Windows 2000, XP
* MacOS X 10.1.5 and later
* [http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ Additional requirements]

[[Category:Media Players|iTunes]]

Foobar2000:Foobar2000

2006-12-22T11:06:57Z

Norz: /* External Guides */

{{notitle}}<div style="position: relative; top: -45px; z-index: 100;">
{|cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;"|
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px; border-bottom: 0px;" colspan="2"|
<div style="font-size: 24px; border: 0px; font-weight: normal; padding-left: 5px; margin: 0px;">[[Image:foobar2000 Logo.png]] the foobar2000 wiki</div>
|-
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px; border-right: 0px;"|
'''foobar2000''' is a freeware audio player, and more. Apart from audio playback, it also supports media libraries, file conversion, CD ripping, and many more powerful features.
<div style="border: 1px solid #CCCCCC; padding: 5px 10px;">
'''The latest stable version is:''' [http://www.foobar2000.org/foobar2000_0.9.4.2.exe v0.9.4.2] 
'''The latest beta version is:''' None
</div>
==Features==

* Open component architecture allowing third-party developers to extend functionality of the player
* Full Unicode support
* [[Replaygain]] support
* Low memory footprint, efficient handling of really large playlists
* Advanced file info processing capabilities (generic file info box and masstagger)
* Highly customizable playlist display
* Customizable keyboard shortcuts
* Gapless playback
* Multiple playlists
* Music library
* Streaming Support
* Freeware

==Supported Audio Formats==

Native Support ("out-of-the-box"):
* [[MP1]], [[MP2]], [[MP3]], [[MP4]], [[Musepack]], [[AAC]], [[Ogg Vorbis]], [[FLAC]] / Ogg FLAC, [[Speex]], [[WavPack]], [[WAV]], [[AIFF]], [[AU]], [[SND]], [[CDDA]], [[WMA]].

Supported through plug-ins:
* [[TTA]], [[Monkey's Audio]], [[ALAC]], [[MOD]], [[SPC]], [[TFMX]], [[Shorten]], [[OptimFROG]], [[LPAC]], [[AC3]], [[DTS]], [[PSF]], [[NSF]], [[XID]], [[XA]], [[Matroska]], [[MMS]], [[RSTP]], etc.

In addition, foobar2000 can also play music directly from compressed RAR, ZIP, [http://kode54.foobar2000.org/foo_unpack_jma.zip JMA] & [http://kode54.foobar2000.org/foo_unpack_lha.zip LHA] archives without requiring the user to extract the files prior to playing.

Foobar2000 has been coded exclusively for the Windows platform with an English interface. The author does not intend to provide alternate language versions nor alternate platform versions. However, several people have had success [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=6349&hl=wine running foobar2000 on x86 Linux systems] by using [http://www.winehq.org/ Wine], although the Columns UI plugin is known to be problematic.

==Using foobar2000==
* [[foobar2000:components 0.9|foobar2000 0.9.x Components]]
* [[foobar2000:Directories|foobar2000 Directories]]
* [[foobar2000:FAQ|foobar2000 FAQ]]
* [[foobar2000:Encouraged Tag Standards|foobar2000 Encouraged Tag Standards]]
* [[foobar2000:Tips & Tricks|foobar2000 Tips & Tricks]]

===Technical Information===
* [[Foobar2000:ID3 Tag Mapping|ID3 Tag Mapping]]

===General Guides===
''Note'' All '''general''' guides were written for 0.8.3 version and could contain outdated information. For 0.9 version, check out the External Guides below.
* [[foobar2000:Newbie User Guide|Newbie User Guide]]
* [[foobar2000:Intermediate User Guide|Intermediate User Guide]]

===Specific Guides===

'''0.9.x'''

* [[foobar2000:Preferences|Preferences Dialog]]
* [[foobar2000:Titleformat Introduction|Introduction to titleformat scripts]]
* [[foobar2000:Titleformat Reference|Titleformat Reference]] - Quick-Reference for fields and functions
* [[foobar2000:Masstaggers User Guide|Masstagger]]
* [[foobar2000:Commandline Guide|Commandline Usage]]
* [[foobar2000:Increasing Performance|Increasing Performance]] - Tips

'''0.8.x'''

The following articles contain outdated information that does not apply to Foobar2000 v0.9:
* [[foobar2000:Tagz|Tagz (Simple Syntax)]]
* [[foobar2000:Tagscript|Tagscript (Script-like Syntax)]]
* [[foobar2000:Autoplaylist|Autoplaylist]] Guide and Cookbook

===External Guides===

'''0.9.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar0.9/ Bachi-Bouzouk's English/French guide] Complete manual about foobar2000, Replaygain, the masstagger (with a tutorial) and common plugins.Two rather extensive FAQ for UI columns and overall use. Step by step guide to help new users.
* [http://foobar.s53.xrea.com/index.html fb2k Wiki Page] for Japanese users.
* [http://foobar2000.audiohq.de/ Frank Bicking's German-language guide].
* [http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/Replay-Gain.html Replay Gain] focusing on Foobar2000. (But the other articles on this site contain misleading information)

'''0.8.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/ Bachi-Bouzouk's guide]
* [http://www.dizwell.com/prod/node/44 Howard Rogers' Beginners' Configuration Guide]
* [http://shsc.info/foobar2000#titelanker2 SH/SC New user guide]
* [http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/foobar/ TechSpot's "complete guide to Foobar2000"]

==== Scripting Tutorials ====

'''0.9.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar0.9/tutorial.php Bachi-Bouzouk's Scripting Tutorial] Color schemes detailed. Main functions explained, basic and complex code for your columns. Several .fcs explained, detailed FAQ.
* [http://tagz.brother-john.net/ Brother John's Foobar2000 Scripting Tutorial]

==Important Links==

===Official Site===

* [http://www.foobar2000.org foobar2000.org: Homepage]
* [http://www.foobar2000.org foobar2000.org: Download]
* [http://www.foobar2000.org/requirements.html foobar2000.org: Requirements]

===Community===

* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=28 Official foobar2000 forum]
* [http://foobar2000.fo.funpic.de/ German Support Forum]
* [http://www.foobar.prv.pl/ Polish-language forum]
* [http://www.foobar2000.tk Portuguese forum]
* [http://www.fforum.ru/index.php?showforum=59 Russian-language forum]
* [http://www.foobar2000.ru/forum/ Another Russian-language forum]

===Appearance===

* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=49783 Configuration Distribution Thread] Fast Way To Clone Another's Advanced Configuration {{foobar2000v09}}.
* [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Columns UI/Appearance|Appearance]] Guides to customizing the look of your Foobar2000
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=43077 Foobar Gallery 0.9]: screenshot thread {{foobar2000v09}}
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=30988 Foobar Gallery 0.8]: screenshot thread {{foobar2000v08}}
* [http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/fb2k/index.php Default UI formatting strings]: cut-n-paste ready
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=31027 Columns UI configs]: .fcs file format
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px;" valign="top"|
{{Software Infobox|
|name = foobar2000
|screenshot = [[Image:Foobar2000v0.9.png|250px]]
|caption = Screenshot of foobar2000 v0.9 using the default user interface
|maintainer = Peter Pawlowski
|stable_release = 0.9.4.2
|preview_release = None
|operating_system = Windows
|use = Media Player
|license = Proprietary, BSD
|website = [http://www.foobar2000.org/ www.foobar2000.org]
}} 
<div style="margin-left: 17px;">__TOC__</div>
|}
[[Category:foobar2000]]
[[Category:Media Players|foobar2000]]

Foobar2000:Foobar2000

2006-12-22T11:06:33Z

Norz: /* External Guides */ warning about http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/Replay-Gain.html, see discussion page

{{notitle}}<div style="position: relative; top: -45px; z-index: 100;">
{|cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse;"|
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px; border-bottom: 0px;" colspan="2"|
<div style="font-size: 24px; border: 0px; font-weight: normal; padding-left: 5px; margin: 0px;">[[Image:foobar2000 Logo.png]] the foobar2000 wiki</div>
|-
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px; border-right: 0px;"|
'''foobar2000''' is a freeware audio player, and more. Apart from audio playback, it also supports media libraries, file conversion, CD ripping, and many more powerful features.
<div style="border: 1px solid #CCCCCC; padding: 5px 10px;">
'''The latest stable version is:''' [http://www.foobar2000.org/foobar2000_0.9.4.2.exe v0.9.4.2] 
'''The latest beta version is:''' None
</div>
==Features==

* Open component architecture allowing third-party developers to extend functionality of the player
* Full Unicode support
* [[Replaygain]] support
* Low memory footprint, efficient handling of really large playlists
* Advanced file info processing capabilities (generic file info box and masstagger)
* Highly customizable playlist display
* Customizable keyboard shortcuts
* Gapless playback
* Multiple playlists
* Music library
* Streaming Support
* Freeware

==Supported Audio Formats==

Native Support ("out-of-the-box"):
* [[MP1]], [[MP2]], [[MP3]], [[MP4]], [[Musepack]], [[AAC]], [[Ogg Vorbis]], [[FLAC]] / Ogg FLAC, [[Speex]], [[WavPack]], [[WAV]], [[AIFF]], [[AU]], [[SND]], [[CDDA]], [[WMA]].

Supported through plug-ins:
* [[TTA]], [[Monkey's Audio]], [[ALAC]], [[MOD]], [[SPC]], [[TFMX]], [[Shorten]], [[OptimFROG]], [[LPAC]], [[AC3]], [[DTS]], [[PSF]], [[NSF]], [[XID]], [[XA]], [[Matroska]], [[MMS]], [[RSTP]], etc.

In addition, foobar2000 can also play music directly from compressed RAR, ZIP, [http://kode54.foobar2000.org/foo_unpack_jma.zip JMA] & [http://kode54.foobar2000.org/foo_unpack_lha.zip LHA] archives without requiring the user to extract the files prior to playing.

Foobar2000 has been coded exclusively for the Windows platform with an English interface. The author does not intend to provide alternate language versions nor alternate platform versions. However, several people have had success [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=6349&hl=wine running foobar2000 on x86 Linux systems] by using [http://www.winehq.org/ Wine], although the Columns UI plugin is known to be problematic.

==Using foobar2000==
* [[foobar2000:components 0.9|foobar2000 0.9.x Components]]
* [[foobar2000:Directories|foobar2000 Directories]]
* [[foobar2000:FAQ|foobar2000 FAQ]]
* [[foobar2000:Encouraged Tag Standards|foobar2000 Encouraged Tag Standards]]
* [[foobar2000:Tips & Tricks|foobar2000 Tips & Tricks]]

===Technical Information===
* [[Foobar2000:ID3 Tag Mapping|ID3 Tag Mapping]]

===General Guides===
''Note'' All '''general''' guides were written for 0.8.3 version and could contain outdated information. For 0.9 version, check out the External Guides below.
* [[foobar2000:Newbie User Guide|Newbie User Guide]]
* [[foobar2000:Intermediate User Guide|Intermediate User Guide]]

===Specific Guides===

'''0.9.x'''

* [[foobar2000:Preferences|Preferences Dialog]]
* [[foobar2000:Titleformat Introduction|Introduction to titleformat scripts]]
* [[foobar2000:Titleformat Reference|Titleformat Reference]] - Quick-Reference for fields and functions
* [[foobar2000:Masstaggers User Guide|Masstagger]]
* [[foobar2000:Commandline Guide|Commandline Usage]]
* [[foobar2000:Increasing Performance|Increasing Performance]] - Tips

'''0.8.x'''

The following articles contain outdated information that does not apply to Foobar2000 v0.9:
* [[foobar2000:Tagz|Tagz (Simple Syntax)]]
* [[foobar2000:Tagscript|Tagscript (Script-like Syntax)]]
* [[foobar2000:Autoplaylist|Autoplaylist]] Guide and Cookbook

===External Guides===

'''0.9.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar0.9/ Bachi-Bouzouk's English/French guide] Complete manual about foobar2000, Replaygain, the masstagger (with a tutorial) and common plugins.Two rather extensive FAQ for UI columns and overall use. Step by step guide to help new users.
* [http://foobar.s53.xrea.com/index.html fb2k Wiki Page] for Japanese users.
* [http://foobar2000.audiohq.de/ Frank Bicking's German-language guide].
* [http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/Replay-Gain.html Replay Gain] focusing on Foobar2000. (But the other articles contain misleading information)

'''0.8.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar/ Bachi-Bouzouk's guide]
* [http://www.dizwell.com/prod/node/44 Howard Rogers' Beginners' Configuration Guide]
* [http://shsc.info/foobar2000#titelanker2 SH/SC New user guide]
* [http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/foobar/ TechSpot's "complete guide to Foobar2000"]

==== Scripting Tutorials ====

'''0.9.x'''

* [http://eolindel.free.fr/foobar0.9/tutorial.php Bachi-Bouzouk's Scripting Tutorial] Color schemes detailed. Main functions explained, basic and complex code for your columns. Several .fcs explained, detailed FAQ.
* [http://tagz.brother-john.net/ Brother John's Foobar2000 Scripting Tutorial]

==Important Links==

===Official Site===

* [http://www.foobar2000.org foobar2000.org: Homepage]
* [http://www.foobar2000.org foobar2000.org: Download]
* [http://www.foobar2000.org/requirements.html foobar2000.org: Requirements]

===Community===

* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=28 Official foobar2000 forum]
* [http://foobar2000.fo.funpic.de/ German Support Forum]
* [http://www.foobar.prv.pl/ Polish-language forum]
* [http://www.foobar2000.tk Portuguese forum]
* [http://www.fforum.ru/index.php?showforum=59 Russian-language forum]
* [http://www.foobar2000.ru/forum/ Another Russian-language forum]

===Appearance===

* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=49783 Configuration Distribution Thread] Fast Way To Clone Another's Advanced Configuration {{foobar2000v09}}.
* [[Foobar2000:Preferences:Columns UI/Appearance|Appearance]] Guides to customizing the look of your Foobar2000
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=43077 Foobar Gallery 0.9]: screenshot thread {{foobar2000v09}}
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=30988 Foobar Gallery 0.8]: screenshot thread {{foobar2000v08}}
* [http://pelit.koillismaa.fi/fb2k/index.php Default UI formatting strings]: cut-n-paste ready
* [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=31027 Columns UI configs]: .fcs file format
|style="border: 1px solid #777777; padding: 10px;" valign="top"|
{{Software Infobox|
|name = foobar2000
|screenshot = [[Image:Foobar2000v0.9.png|250px]]
|caption = Screenshot of foobar2000 v0.9 using the default user interface
|maintainer = Peter Pawlowski
|stable_release = 0.9.4.2
|preview_release = None
|operating_system = Windows
|use = Media Player
|license = Proprietary, BSD
|website = [http://www.foobar2000.org/ www.foobar2000.org]
}} 
<div style="margin-left: 17px;">__TOC__</div>
|}
[[Category:foobar2000]]
[[Category:Media Players|foobar2000]]

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2006-12-22T11:04:31Z

Norz: /* Replay Gain guide leading to false information */

{{talkheader}}

==Previous talk==
<<snip>> Removed long dead conversations from 2005 Use '''history''' to view --[[User:Reglib|Reglib]] 21:23, 19 May 2006 (CDT)
----
You do realize that somebody responsible for hydrogenaudio is blocking entire ISP's IP-address ranges? It makes your software (foobar2000) look kind of raunchy at best. I stopped looking further right there, when I was pointed to your forum on "hydrogenaudio.org" it said that I could not view that.
Apparently this wiki is not blocking the IP-ranges, but that's besides the point.
What I also dislike about the foobar2000 'official' page, is that it is way too anonymous and scary. WHO created it? Is it a human being, a company? Is there a contact or about page anywhere to look at? If it is on that hydrogen domain, we can't see it. Just so you know. I wouldn't put my info in their hands for a second if I were you. [[User:Kjhgkjg|Kjhgkjg]] 18:10, 3 February 2006 (CST)
----
I'm thinking about reorganizing this page to be friendier for people looking to learn more about Foobar2000 while maintaining it as quick reference for veterans.
* Pretty colors, probably using tables, to further delineate sections
* Using keywords people are more used to such as: download, screenshots, support
* Pictures that don't mean anything but look pretty

I hope you all like pink and unicorns! j/k

--[[User:Reglib|Reglib]] 21:23, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

I see no unicorns... I :wub: unicorns :-D

--[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 23:01, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

==Page reorganization==
I added a [[Template:Talkheader|talkpage header template]] to the wiki, borrowed from wikipedia ;)
Now I'll be reorganizing the frontpage to look more like a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winamp software wikipedia page]. I believe we do not need to reinvent the wheel. [[User:Beto|Beto]] 14:57, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
: I also added an [[Template:Infobox Software|infobox software template]] to the wiki and used it in the foobar page. If you want to discuss anything please post it here. --[[User:Beto|Beto]] 20:34, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
:: The infobox collides with the heading's underline... can you put in some kid of margin-left around the box? --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 23:01, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
::: I tried but it appears not to be doable. It happens with the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Software_infobox wikipedia template] as well... --[[User:Beto|Beto]] 09:22, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
:::: Beto, I found out how to do it. Do check the [[Template:Infobox Software|infobox software template]]. An explanation is in the discussion page. --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 17:25, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
::::: Great!! Thank you. I already updated other infoboxes I created with your code.--[[User:Beto|Beto]] 07:26, 26 August 2006 (CDT)

== New page layout! ==

{{smiley|D}} What do you think? Another idea is I can make a template that puts the foobar2000 logo in the right corner, linking to the main foobar page (there's ones like these on wikipedia). This'd be useful for users and... stuff. {{smiley|)}} ~[[User:Elliottmobile|Elliottmobile]] '''([[User_talk:Elliottmobile|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elliottmobile|contribs]])''' 10:44, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
: I really like this layout {{smiley|D}}. I am not really sure about the second column though.... By the way, are you using an external editor to edit the pages? The built in wiki editor is featureless IMO....--[[User:Beto|Beto]] 12:17, 18 September 2006 (CDT)
::Second column was just to keep the table of contents to the right, really ;). I suppose it's useless... and nope, too many years of coding HTML in notepad does this to you :P ~[[User:Elliottmobile|Elliottmobile]] '''([[User_talk:Elliottmobile|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Elliottmobile|contribs]])''' 12:40, 18 September 2006 (CDT)

== Replay Gain guide leading to false information ==
The replay guide at: http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/Replay-Gain.html is ok, comparing replay gain in winamp & foobar, but the article on lossy codecs is full of false information: http://www.bobulous.org.uk/misc/lossy_audio_2006.html
It compares the average bitrate of wma, vorbis, mp3!!!!! There isn't even a comment section to tell the author how wrong he is...
--[[User:Norz|norz]] 05:04, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2006-12-22T11:04:11Z

Norz: /* replay gain guide linked leads to false information! */

Talk:Recommended Ogg Vorbis

2006-07-09T13:43:17Z

Norz: list recommended version first?

Um, the history here. Shouldn't it be in the [[Ogg Vorbis]] page instead? And a linkback from the [[Ogg Vorbis]] page to this page. --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 20:22, 4 January 2006 (CST)

:I have added linkback from [[Ogg Vorbis]] page. Do we need the green text? And can someone tell me if 4.51 has or hasn't became the recommended version? (I personally use 4.51 but no time nor desire to AB 4 and 4.51) --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 20:44, 4 January 2006 (CST)

::Yes, we do need the green text, it add's color to the wiki and sticks with color scheme in the thread ;-D. I personally put the page together with my bare hands, adapted, and changed it. The History should be similiar to, but with less of an emphasis on the codec and more on the binaries. I need to add in the advanced-command line parameters and knowing what binary is which. A lot of the other stuff can be left out. Thanks for fixing the table btw. If you see any other articles you can add information to with a reference or a source feel to free to do so. --[[User:HotshotGG|HotshotGG]] 5:52, 5 January 2006 (EST).

:::I'm all for color in the Wiki... but why must green :D
:::BTW you are wrong about 4.51. 4.51 is bugfix of 4.5, which is improvement from 4.
:::So from 4.5 to 4.51 there's no code change (other than bugfix), but from 4 to 4.5 there's improvement in quality.
:::See the announcement [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38517 here]. --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 07:48, 6 January 2006 (CST)

Here is what I am thinking. I think we should remove the green color's on the text and just use color's for syntax highlightening and important stuff. You can continue to edit the page and I will come back and check out it. It's look good for the most part there is a lot of stuff that nees to be edited though. --[[User:HotshotGG|HotshotGG]] 07:45, 7 January 2006 (EST).

:Tried to remove to greens. I think it looks overcolored now... black, then blue, then black, then green... the textblocks are too short I think to make it multicolored? --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 07:30, 10 January 2006 (CST)

::I really think there was too much green. The page is quickly degrading into a rainbow page. So I recolorized everything. And change the ugly vendor tag list to a table. --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 13:56, 19 January 2006 (GMT)

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Note: aoTuV beta 2 was merged in xiph.org libvorbis 1.1, but aoTuV beta 3 was never merged in xiph.org. -- ''(Who wrote this?)''

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Heyyy... the tables are now grey! I think the tables are better green... but the text better black. And will we please use the Show Preview button before Saving :P it drives me nuts seeing the history is so long... --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 11:46, 22 January 2006 (CST)

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Do you think the Vendor Tag table is a bit too long to be placed here? It's not that related to the topic anyway? Perhaps we can make another page, i.e. Vorbis:Vendor Tags.
--[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 10:22, 12 May 2006 (CDT)

:I don't see a need too. The less pages that are needed to get the message across in the wiki the better. --[[User:HotshotGG|HotshotGG]] 1:43, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

::But the info in the table is (1) Useful for '''decoding''' not '''encoding''', and (2) Not really useful anyway.
::The page is getting too wieldy, anyways :-( --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] 02:32, 28 May 2006 (CDT)

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When you read quickly the page, you see first the 4.51 encoders, and only after version 4. You have to read the page in detail to learn that version 4 is really the recommended encoder, and version 4.51 has to get more "peer review". I think the recommended encoder should be listed first, and the latest versions shown below, for those wanting to experiment.
--[[User:Norz|Norz]] 08:43, 9 July 2006 (CDT)

User:Reglib

2006-05-15T18:58:55Z

Norz: /* Wishlist */

Hi.
I used to be an electrical engineer, focusing on solid state crap, but now I'm in the movie business. I focus on a lot of aspects, but I ironically stay away from sound (I just give that stuff to friends). I do have knowledge from signal processing courses and the field, but I just don't enjoy it as much as video.

Apart from a maintaining a personal wiki, I contribute to the Unofficial Konfabulator (yahoo! widget engine) wiki.

I'm fairly new to Foobar2000. I like to keep things simple.

== My Foobar2000 ==
[http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=myfb2k3ek.jpg http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2756/myfb2k3ek.th.jpg] Low Compression

=== Global Hotkeys: ===
* masstagger rating scripts Ctrl+1 through Ctrl+5
* mm keys mapped, except mm(stop) -> activate/hide
* pause = activate pretty pop(fast)
* CTRL+` = open folder

ColumnsUI based on Navigator. Switched from an old Azreal. Unfortunately I keep modifying it, so upgrading will be difficult. My current IDE (HTML-Kit) oddly doesn't support unicode. So I'll probably find another and use syntax hilighting.

I maintain two foobar2000 setups. one '''stable''' and the other *gasp* '''unstable'''.

=== Wishlist ===
* toggle buttons in toolbar could indicate state (Follow Cursor, Follow Playback, Stop after Current, etc.)
* One-click RePlay Gain
* ability to count the number of selected items
2006-05-15 20h57 norz: you can see that in the properties box, or you could write a lua script (with foo_lua) that would output the number in the console, when invoked (eg: via a keyboard shortcut), but I guess, you'd like to see it in the status bar next to the total playing time... don't know how to do that, sorry.

Tag (metadata)

2006-04-22T14:23:19Z

Norz: correction of previous edit

After ripping and encoding a media file, many people choose to add tags to the file. These tags hold information about the media such as artist, album, track title and so on. As different audio formats evolve so do different tagging specifications have been developed. Below is a brief summary of these tagging specifications. Also, each format has technical information.

* [[ID3v1|ID3v1.x]]
* [[ID3v2|ID3v2.x]]
* [[Lyrics3|Lyrics3v2.x]]
* [[Vorbis comment|Vorbis comments]]
* [[APEv1]]
* [[APEv2]]
* [[Matroska tag|Matroska tags]]

To use the above tag formats you need some kind of tag editor. Most audio formats have their own program to add tags, but players like Winamp and Foobar2000 can also edit tags and there are some general tagging utilities available (see the [[Download page]]).

'''Tagging standards''' have been set by the foobar2000 community, see [[Foobar2000:Encouraged_Tag_Standards|here]].

Tag (metadata)

2006-04-22T14:22:38Z

Norz: Added link to foobar2000 tagging standards page

User talk:HotshotGG

2006-04-06T20:42:45Z

Norz:

2006-04-06 22h43 Norz: Hi! Best wishes to you & Vorbis! :)

Recommended Ogg Vorbis

2006-03-27T18:36:24Z

Norz: /* Recommended Encoder Settings */ formatting

[[image:fish_logo.png|right|]]
[[Ogg Vorbis|Vorbis]], being a continuously developed standard, improves all the time. Plus, being an open (i.e. patent-free) standard, it has many 'third-parties' that contribute, discuss, and work to improve the project.

Here you can find some guidelines on which utilities to use, and what settings will provide you with the best quality.

=History=

(For a highly detailed description of Vorbis history, check out OggZealot's [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15274&view=findpost&p=153268 Ogg Vorbis Historic] where Monty also adds a few more details too). Ogg Vorbis reached version 1.0 in '''July 2002'''. It is the official [http://www.xiph.org/ Xiph.org] encoder ''(the one you get from vorbis.com)''. HA codec developer, Garf, did his own tunings, based on version 1.0 to produce GT3b1 and GT3b2. Both encoders showed improved [[pre echo]] handling for ''q'' values of ''5 to 10''. It was later judged in an internal listening test that GT3b1 was the better of the two. There was a minor bugfix update earlier that year in March, which only appeared in the CVS at Xiph.org. This consisted of very minor bug fixes, which do more to correct odd problems that may occur rather than improving quality, including ''(garbled noise output and gaps in streams)''. This was referred to as Post 1.0 CVS. Quality problems that mainly affected low bitrates were later addressed in a new bugfix ''(1.0.1)'' that was released.

Post 1.0.1 CVS was released late '''December 2003''' by Monty at Xiph, and includes a true [[CBR]] template. In order to simplify the situation where we had two encoders ''(1.0.1 and GT3b1)'', OggDropXPd developer John33 merged the sources to give us GT3b2. Once the 128 kbps multiformat test was completed, Aoyumi's [[aoTuV]] Vorbis tuning was determined to be the best Vorbis encoder. After the success of aoTuV beta 2 encoder, Xiph.Org merged their tunings into the official CVS branch to produce the long-awaited Vorbis 1.1. Aoyumi's later release of '''aoTuV beta 4''' encoder as of '''November 2005''' significantly improves Vorbis' quality while enhancing the compression. It is now the recommended encoder by 3rd party developers at Hydrogenaudio. Aoyumi's latest is '''aoTuV beta 4.5''' (later bugfixed with '''aoTuV beta 4.51''') released in '''December 2005''', which improves low bit-rate quality even more. However, it is still undergoing peer review before it becomes the recommended encoder. Near the end of 2005, after aoTuV beta 4.51 was released, Xiph.org released '''Vorbis 1.1.2'''. Unfortunatly it only provides bugfixes to Vorbis 1.1.1. Although this is the 'official' version, it is '''not recommended''' by HA. If you are not interested in the latest "bleeding edge" improvements, you are welcome to use the latest release from Xiph.org '''Vorbis 1.1.2''' library.

''Note: Xiph.org does not maintain the binaries, but rather provides newest updates and releases to libogg and libvorbis, etc.''

=Recommended Vorbis Encoders=

''(adapted from [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15049 Recommended Encoder and Settings] post compiled by QuantumKnot)''

==Windows binaries==

John33's oggenc2.8 is a special version of the Ogg Vorbis encoder. "Features include compression from lossless files (Monkeys Audio, LPAC, FLAC, OptimFROG, WavPack and Shorten - requires presence of decoders), and the ability to specify 'padding' in the headers for subsequent insertion of Tags" (from Ogg Vorbis page at rarewares).

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=59 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (MSVC compile)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=60 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P3/AMD Athlon)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=61 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P4/AMD Sempron, Athlon 64))]'''

If you prefer a nice drag-and-drop interface, then you can try John33's OggDropXPd (Windows only). "Features include compression from lossless files ([[Monkey's Audio]], [[LPAC]], [[FLAC]] and [[OptimFROG]]), auto-tagging, renaming of encoded files, setting of advanced encoder parameters, use of VorbisGain tags on decode, Playlist (.m3u) creation, and others" (from Ogg Vorbis page at rarewares).

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=50 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (MSVC compile)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=51 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P3/AMD Athlon)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=52 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P4/AMD Sempron, Athlon 64)]'''

''(Work In Progress: Guide will be completed soon. Check [[OggDropXPd|here]])''

==OS/X binaries==
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/vorbis_tools_1.1.1_aoTuVb4.51.zip Vorbis Tools (oggenc, oggdec, etc.) version 1.1.1]''' using aoTuVb4.51 for MacOS X.
: These tools were compiled by krmathis for OS/X.

==Linux binaries==

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/quantumknot/oggenc-aotuv451.gz oggenc aoTuV beta 4.51 and libogg 1.1.3 (Static GCC 4 compile)]''' '''with impulse_trigger_profile'''
: This static GCC 4 binary was compiled by QuantumKnot.

''Note: There is no Linux Oggenc2.x that has been compiled with Lancer Optimizations as of yet (third-parties with a access to a unix environment are encouraged to try and compile one themselves if they have access to the sources).''

==3rd party source code==

These are other Ogg Vorbis encoders that were tuned by 3rd party developers (outside of Xiph.Org).

* '''[http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/ aoTuV (Aoyumi's Tuned Vorbis)]''' -- contains modified source code written in C and downloads of binaries.

: ''The source-code contains modifications mostly to the psychoacoustics model and bitrate allocation, i.e psy.c''

: '''aoTuV beta 4 -- Now the recommended encoder'''

:: Developed by Aoyumi and based on libvorbis 1.1.1, many people have reported this encoder to give better quality at low to medium bitrates. It includes a -q -2 option for the lowest bitrate. According to guruboolez' latest listening test on classical music, aoTuV beta 4 performed magnificently well at -q 6!! ''(see Aoyumi's website above for more information)''

: '''aoTuV beta 4.51 -- The latest encoder'''

:: Many Hydrogenaudio enthusiasts report that this version gives even better quality for low bit-rates. -q 1.5 works for streaming, even good enough. However, more peer review is needed before this version becomes the recommended encoder.

: See [[Compiling aoTuV]] for information on how to compile it for Linux.

==Optimized binaries==

These are highly optimized encoders developed by the '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/index_e.htm Ogg Vorbis Acceleration Project]''' that are much faster than the standard binary builds with negligible to nearly no effects on audio quality, including sped-up routines, i.e ''mdct.c''

* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20050709.zip oggenc2.6 aoTuV beta 4 (Lancer 20050709) (Win32 Build)]'''
* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20051121.zip oggenc2.6 aoTuV beta 4.51 (Lancer 20051121) (Win32 Build)]'''
* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20060131.zip oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (Lancer 20060131) (Win32 Build)]''' -- ''Latest version''

See [[Lancer]] Information and downloads page above.

''Note: Output of Lancer may be slightly different from output of 'standard' aoTuV. This is due to the difference of floating-point rounding: Lancer uses 64-bit SSE, while standard aoTuV uses 80-bit FP. This difference, however, should not be audible at all. In fact, tests have proven that playback of Lancer's output is indistinguishable from playback of standard aoTuV output.'' 

=Released Binaries=

How do I know which encoder was used to make this particular Ogg Vorbis file?

Using either the ''ogginfo'' program or file info in your player, you can tell from the vendor tag:

If you aren't interested in the latest compiles feel free to use Vorbis 1.1.2 libraries.

{| border="0" style="margin-left:2px; color:black; background-color:white; border:1px dotted black; text-align:left;" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Vendor Tag !! Encoder !! Note
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508
| '''1.0 Beta 1 or Beta 2 '''
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031
| '''1.0 Beta 3 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225
| '''1.0 Beta 4 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615
| '''1.0 RC1 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813
| '''1.0 RC2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010816 (gtune 1)
| '''1.0 RC2 GT1 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011014 (GTune 2)
| '''1.0 RC2 GT2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011217
| '''1.0 RC3 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231
| '''1.0 RC3 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717
| '''1.0 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (GTune 3, beta 1)
| '''GT3b1 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030308
| '''Post 1.0 CVS 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909
| '''1.0.1 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (GTune 3, beta 2) EXPERIMENTAL
| '''Experimental GT3b2 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (1.0.1)
| '''Post 1.0.1 CVS 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (GTune 3, beta 2)
| '''GT3b2 
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV b2 [20040420] (based on Xiph.Org's 1.0.1)
| '''aoTuV Beta 2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20040629
| '''Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 or Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 RC1 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20040920
| '''Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 with impulse_trigger_profile 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b3 [20041120] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| ''' aoTuV Beta 3 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20050304
| ''' Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1.1 or Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1.2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b4 [20050617] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4 
|
|-
| BS; Lancer [20050709] (based on aoTuV b4 [20050617])
| '''Lancer based on aoTuV Beta 4
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b4a [20051105] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4.5 
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV b4b [20051117] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4.51 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| BS; Lancer [20051121] (based on aoTuV b4b [20051117])
| '''Lancer based on aoTuV Beta 4.51
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV pre-beta5 [20060321] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''AoTuV Beta 5
|}

=Recommended Encoder Settings=

'''Refer to the table below. For best results, start at -q 4 and''' [[ABX]] '''your way up.''' 
''Ultimately, the best -q setting will depend on your specific needs. Feel free to experiment.'' 

'''General Command Line Usage:'''

'''oggenc -q n inputfile.wav '''

:''where'' '''n''' ''is a number from -1 to 10, fractions accepted (using comma or period, depending on where the tool is compiled)'' e.g. '''oggenc -q 5 inputfile.wav '''

'''Notes:'''
* Most standard oggenc binaries can input lossless FLAC, WavPack, etc files as well (depending upon oggenc version)
* ''oggenc2.7'' and later are the only versions of oggenc that conform to the '''WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE''' header for outputing and decoding multi-channel Vorbis files (3 to 6 channels) in compliance with the Vorbis I decoding specification. Encoding multi-channel content might still produce sub-optimal files if lossless channel coupling is not used, due to modifications that need to be performed in libvorbis for proper channel coupling. Encoding assumes source material is CD audio content or PCM equivalent. ''
* The current oggenc and libvorbis API don't support the capabilities of full "bitrate peeling" yet. Experimental peelers exist, but only for testings purposes. ''i.e (Vinjey Systems)''

{| border="0" style="margin-left:50px; color:black; background-color:white; border:1px dotted black; text-align:center;" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Switch !! VBR target (kbit/s) !! VBR range (kbit/s) !! [[Channel coupling|Channel Coupling]] !! [[Noise normalization|Noise Normalization]] !! Note
|-
| -q -2 || ~32 || ~32 - ~64 || point/lossless || yes || (1)
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q -1 || ~48 || ~48 - ~64 || point/lossless || yes || (2)
|-
| -q 0 || ~64 || ~64 - ~80 || point/lossless || yes ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 1 || ~80 || ~80 - ~96 || point/lossless || yes || (3)
|-
| -q 2 || ~96 || ~96 - ~112 || point/lossless || yes ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 3 || ~112 || ~112 - ~128 || point/lossless || yes ||
|-
| -q 4 || ~128 || ~128 - ~160 || point/lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 5 || ~160 || ~160 - ~192 || point/lossless || no || (4)
|-
| -q 6 || ~192 || ~192 - ~224 || lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 7 || ~224 || ~224 - ~256 || lossless || no ||
|-
| -q 8 || ~256 || ~256 - ~320 || lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 9 || ~320 || ~320 - ~500 || lossless || no ||
|-
| -q 10 || ~500 || ~500 - ~1000 || lossless || no ||
|}

<div style="margin-left:3px;">
(1)'' Only supported on aoTuVb3 and newer '' 
(2)'' Bitrate of 48 kbit/s is only for aoTuVb3 and newer. Earlier versions and Xiph.org versions use a bitrate of 45 kbit/s '' 
(3)'' Reports seem to indicate that aoTuVb4.51 -q 1 provides good quality for streaming '' 
(4)'' Most users agree -q 5 achieves transparency''

To know what '''lowpass frequencies''' are used for each quality level, see ha thread [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15049&st=160&p=357461&#entry357461 here].
</div>

=Advanced Encoder Settings=

===Reducing Pre-echo===
''This is applicable to Vorbis 1.1; it may or may not be applicable to aoTuVb4 or aoTuVb4.51.''

Generally, using the recommended settings above will give the best quality. There may be cases where Vorbis 1.1 will fail to reproduce sharp attacks or transients in your music, causing [[pre echo]]. In which case, you can use the '''impulse_noisetune''' advanced encode switch:

'''oggenc -q '''n''' --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=p inputfile.wav'''
:'''where p is a number from 0 to -15'''
:e.g. '''oggenc -q '''5''' --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=-5 inputfile.wav'''

Note that the lower the number (toward -15) for impulse_noisetune, the higher the bitrate will fluctuate in passages of music filled with transient attacks (and the final average bitrate may be much higher than the nominal). Therefore, you should try a small value to start off (say '''-5''') and see if you get acceptable quality. If not, tweak it lower.

===Reducing noise due to microattacks===
''This is only valid for some Vorbis encoders that are marked as having '''''impulse_trigger_profile'''.

There are certain parts of some types of music, called "microattacks", where Vorbis will produce a noise (sort of like a puff of steam), which is due to inaccuracies in the block-switching algorithm ''(which can't be corrected)''. Due to the fact the attacks are so fine and close together, Vorbis doesn't switch to impulse short blocks enough, thus "smearing" the reproduction.

By default (with no additional switches), Vorbis selects a different profile for block switching (lower means less switching, higher means more switching) and the default values are shown in the table below:

{| border="0" style="margin-left: 150px; color:green; background-color:white; border:1px dotted green; text-align:center;" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Quality !! Profile !!   !! Quality !! Profile
|-
| -1 || 0 || || 5 || 2.5
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 0 || 1 || || 6 || 2.7
|-
| 1 || 1 || || 7 || 3
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 2 || 1.5 || || 8 || 3.7
|-
| 3 || 2 || || 9 || 4
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 4 || 2 || || 10 || 4
|}

If you encounter this problem on microattacks, you may try the impulse_trigger_profile advanced encode switch, which will change (increase) the profile to your desired value.

'''oggenc -q n --advanced-encode-option impulse_trigger_profile='''r''' inputfile.wav'''
:''where'' '''r''' ''is a number from 0 to 4, fractions accepted.''

'''Notes:'''
* There is the possibility that relaxed block switching (higher profiles) may cause other quality problems and create suboptimal Vorbis files. Please use it sparingly and with caution. If in doubt, leave impulse_trigger_profile on default ''(that is, don't use it at all)''
* Setting the profile too high will make Vorbis switch to impulse short blocks more often, which will lead to higher bitrate fluctuations. So be conservative.
* This settings has no effect on reducing the level of pre-echo. It can be said to only reduce the ''likelihood'' of [[Pre echo|pre echo]], but the amount of pre-echo is tuned using the '''impulse_noisetune''' switch instead.
* You may try profiles 5 and 6 as substitutes for 3 and 4. Profile 5 and 6 came from 3 and 4 in GT3b2.

You can use both impulse_noisetune and impulse_trigger_profile at the same time, but you will need separate switches, e.g.

oggenc -q n --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=p
--advanced-encode-option impulse_trigger_profile=r inputfile.wav

Recommended Ogg Vorbis

2006-03-27T18:32:11Z

Norz: /* Recommended Encoder Settings */ link to table of lowpass frequencies in ha thread (no time to do it nicer than that, sorry!)

[[image:fish_logo.png|right|]]
[[Ogg Vorbis|Vorbis]], being a continuously developed standard, improves all the time. Plus, being an open (i.e. patent-free) standard, it has many 'third-parties' that contribute, discuss, and work to improve the project.

Here you can find some guidelines on which utilities to use, and what settings will provide you with the best quality.

=History=

(For a highly detailed description of Vorbis history, check out OggZealot's [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15274&view=findpost&p=153268 Ogg Vorbis Historic] where Monty also adds a few more details too). Ogg Vorbis reached version 1.0 in '''July 2002'''. It is the official [http://www.xiph.org/ Xiph.org] encoder ''(the one you get from vorbis.com)''. HA codec developer, Garf, did his own tunings, based on version 1.0 to produce GT3b1 and GT3b2. Both encoders showed improved [[pre echo]] handling for ''q'' values of ''5 to 10''. It was later judged in an internal listening test that GT3b1 was the better of the two. There was a minor bugfix update earlier that year in March, which only appeared in the CVS at Xiph.org. This consisted of very minor bug fixes, which do more to correct odd problems that may occur rather than improving quality, including ''(garbled noise output and gaps in streams)''. This was referred to as Post 1.0 CVS. Quality problems that mainly affected low bitrates were later addressed in a new bugfix ''(1.0.1)'' that was released.

Post 1.0.1 CVS was released late '''December 2003''' by Monty at Xiph, and includes a true [[CBR]] template. In order to simplify the situation where we had two encoders ''(1.0.1 and GT3b1)'', OggDropXPd developer John33 merged the sources to give us GT3b2. Once the 128 kbps multiformat test was completed, Aoyumi's [[aoTuV]] Vorbis tuning was determined to be the best Vorbis encoder. After the success of aoTuV beta 2 encoder, Xiph.Org merged their tunings into the official CVS branch to produce the long-awaited Vorbis 1.1. Aoyumi's later release of '''aoTuV beta 4''' encoder as of '''November 2005''' significantly improves Vorbis' quality while enhancing the compression. It is now the recommended encoder by 3rd party developers at Hydrogenaudio. Aoyumi's latest is '''aoTuV beta 4.5''' (later bugfixed with '''aoTuV beta 4.51''') released in '''December 2005''', which improves low bit-rate quality even more. However, it is still undergoing peer review before it becomes the recommended encoder. Near the end of 2005, after aoTuV beta 4.51 was released, Xiph.org released '''Vorbis 1.1.2'''. Unfortunatly it only provides bugfixes to Vorbis 1.1.1. Although this is the 'official' version, it is '''not recommended''' by HA. If you are not interested in the latest "bleeding edge" improvements, you are welcome to use the latest release from Xiph.org '''Vorbis 1.1.2''' library.

''Note: Xiph.org does not maintain the binaries, but rather provides newest updates and releases to libogg and libvorbis, etc.''

=Recommended Vorbis Encoders=

''(adapted from [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15049 Recommended Encoder and Settings] post compiled by QuantumKnot)''

==Windows binaries==

John33's oggenc2.8 is a special version of the Ogg Vorbis encoder. "Features include compression from lossless files (Monkeys Audio, LPAC, FLAC, OptimFROG, WavPack and Shorten - requires presence of decoders), and the ability to specify 'padding' in the headers for subsequent insertion of Tags" (from Ogg Vorbis page at rarewares).

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=59 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (MSVC compile)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=60 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P3/AMD Athlon)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=61 oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P4/AMD Sempron, Athlon 64))]'''

If you prefer a nice drag-and-drop interface, then you can try John33's OggDropXPd (Windows only). "Features include compression from lossless files ([[Monkey's Audio]], [[LPAC]], [[FLAC]] and [[OptimFROG]]), auto-tagging, renaming of encoded files, setting of advanced encoder parameters, use of VorbisGain tags on decode, Playlist (.m3u) creation, and others" (from Ogg Vorbis page at rarewares).

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=50 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (MSVC compile)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=51 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P3/AMD Athlon)]'''
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/dancer/dancer.php?f=52 OggDropXPd v1.8.7 aoTuV beta 4.51 (ICL compile for P4/AMD Sempron, Athlon 64)]'''

''(Work In Progress: Guide will be completed soon. Check [[OggDropXPd|here]])''

==OS/X binaries==
* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/files/ogg/vorbis_tools_1.1.1_aoTuVb4.51.zip Vorbis Tools (oggenc, oggdec, etc.) version 1.1.1]''' using aoTuVb4.51 for MacOS X.
: These tools were compiled by krmathis for OS/X.

==Linux binaries==

* '''[http://www.rarewares.org/quantumknot/oggenc-aotuv451.gz oggenc aoTuV beta 4.51 and libogg 1.1.3 (Static GCC 4 compile)]''' '''with impulse_trigger_profile'''
: This static GCC 4 binary was compiled by QuantumKnot.

''Note: There is no Linux Oggenc2.x that has been compiled with Lancer Optimizations as of yet (third-parties with a access to a unix environment are encouraged to try and compile one themselves if they have access to the sources).''

==3rd party source code==

These are other Ogg Vorbis encoders that were tuned by 3rd party developers (outside of Xiph.Org).

* '''[http://www.geocities.jp/aoyoume/aotuv/ aoTuV (Aoyumi's Tuned Vorbis)]''' -- contains modified source code written in C and downloads of binaries.

: ''The source-code contains modifications mostly to the psychoacoustics model and bitrate allocation, i.e psy.c''

: '''aoTuV beta 4 -- Now the recommended encoder'''

:: Developed by Aoyumi and based on libvorbis 1.1.1, many people have reported this encoder to give better quality at low to medium bitrates. It includes a -q -2 option for the lowest bitrate. According to guruboolez' latest listening test on classical music, aoTuV beta 4 performed magnificently well at -q 6!! ''(see Aoyumi's website above for more information)''

: '''aoTuV beta 4.51 -- The latest encoder'''

:: Many Hydrogenaudio enthusiasts report that this version gives even better quality for low bit-rates. -q 1.5 works for streaming, even good enough. However, more peer review is needed before this version becomes the recommended encoder.

: See [[Compiling aoTuV]] for information on how to compile it for Linux.

==Optimized binaries==

These are highly optimized encoders developed by the '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/index_e.htm Ogg Vorbis Acceleration Project]''' that are much faster than the standard binary builds with negligible to nearly no effects on audio quality, including sped-up routines, i.e ''mdct.c''

* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20050709.zip oggenc2.6 aoTuV beta 4 (Lancer 20050709) (Win32 Build)]'''
* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20051121.zip oggenc2.6 aoTuV beta 4.51 (Lancer 20051121) (Win32 Build)]'''
* '''[http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/oggenc2_lancer20060131.zip oggenc2.8 aoTuV beta 4.51 (Lancer 20060131) (Win32 Build)]''' -- ''Latest version''

See [[Lancer]] Information and downloads page above.

''Note: Output of Lancer may be slightly different from output of 'standard' aoTuV. This is due to the difference of floating-point rounding: Lancer uses 64-bit SSE, while standard aoTuV uses 80-bit FP. This difference, however, should not be audible at all. In fact, tests have proven that playback of Lancer's output is indistinguishable from playback of standard aoTuV output.'' 

=Released Binaries=

How do I know which encoder was used to make this particular Ogg Vorbis file?

Using either the ''ogginfo'' program or file info in your player, you can tell from the vendor tag:

If you aren't interested in the latest compiles feel free to use Vorbis 1.1.2 libraries.

{| border="0" style="margin-left:2px; color:black; background-color:white; border:1px dotted black; text-align:left;" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Vendor Tag !! Encoder !! Note
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508
| '''1.0 Beta 1 or Beta 2 '''
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031
| '''1.0 Beta 3 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225
| '''1.0 Beta 4 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615
| '''1.0 RC1 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813
| '''1.0 RC2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010816 (gtune 1)
| '''1.0 RC2 GT1 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011014 (GTune 2)
| '''1.0 RC2 GT2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011217
| '''1.0 RC3 
|
|-
| Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231
| '''1.0 RC3 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717
| '''1.0 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (GTune 3, beta 1)
| '''GT3b1 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030308
| '''Post 1.0 CVS 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909
| '''1.0.1 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (GTune 3, beta 2) EXPERIMENTAL
| '''Experimental GT3b2 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (1.0.1)
| '''Post 1.0.1 CVS 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (GTune 3, beta 2)
| '''GT3b2 
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV b2 [20040420] (based on Xiph.Org's 1.0.1)
| '''aoTuV Beta 2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20040629
| '''Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 or Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 RC1 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20040920
| '''Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1 with impulse_trigger_profile 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b3 [20041120] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| ''' aoTuV Beta 3 
|
|-
| Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20050304
| ''' Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1.1 or Xiph.Org Vorbis 1.1.2 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b4 [20050617] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4 
|
|-
| BS; Lancer [20050709] (based on aoTuV b4 [20050617])
| '''Lancer based on aoTuV Beta 4
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| AO; aoTuV b4a [20051105] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4.5 
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV b4b [20051117] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''aoTuV Beta 4.51 
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| BS; Lancer [20051121] (based on aoTuV b4b [20051117])
| '''Lancer based on aoTuV Beta 4.51
|
|-
| AO; aoTuV pre-beta5 [20060321] (based on Xiph.Org's libVorbis)
| '''AoTuV Beta 5
|}

=Recommended Encoder Settings=

'''Refer to the table below. For best results, start at -q 4 and''' [[ABX]] '''your way up.''' 
''Ultimately, the best -q setting will depend on your specific needs. Feel free to experiment.'' 

'''General Command Line Usage:'''

'''oggenc -q n inputfile.wav '''

:''where'' '''n''' ''is a number from -1 to 10, fractions accepted (using comma or period, depending on where the tool is compiled)'' e.g. '''oggenc -q 5 inputfile.wav '''

'''Notes:'''
* Most standard oggenc binaries can input lossless FLAC, WavPack, etc files as well (depending upon oggenc version)
* ''oggenc2.7'' and later are the only versions of oggenc that conform to the '''WAVEFORMATEXTENSIBLE''' header for outputing and decoding multi-channel Vorbis files (3 to 6 channels) in compliance with the Vorbis I decoding specification. Encoding multi-channel content might still produce sub-optimal files if lossless channel coupling is not used, due to modifications that need to be performed in libvorbis for proper channel coupling. Encoding assumes source material is CD audio content or PCM equivalent. ''
* The current oggenc and libvorbis API don't support the capabilities of full "bitrate peeling" yet. Experimental peelers exist, but only for testings purposes. ''i.e (Vinjey Systems)''

{| border="0" style="margin-left:50px; color:black; background-color:white; border:1px dotted black; text-align:center;" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Switch !! VBR target (kbit/s) !! VBR range (kbit/s) !! [[Channel coupling|Channel Coupling]] !! [[Noise normalization|Noise Normalization]] !! Note
|-
| -q -2 || ~32 || ~32 - ~64 || point/lossless || yes || (1)
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q -1 || ~48 || ~48 - ~64 || point/lossless || yes || (2)
|-
| -q 0 || ~64 || ~64 - ~80 || point/lossless || yes ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 1 || ~80 || ~80 - ~96 || point/lossless || yes || (3)
|-
| -q 2 || ~96 || ~96 - ~112 || point/lossless || yes ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 3 || ~112 || ~112 - ~128 || point/lossless || yes ||
|-
| -q 4 || ~128 || ~128 - ~160 || point/lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 5 || ~160 || ~160 - ~192 || point/lossless || no || (4)
|-
| -q 6 || ~192 || ~192 - ~224 || lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 7 || ~224 || ~224 - ~256 || lossless || no ||
|-
| -q 8 || ~256 || ~256 - ~320 || lossless || no ||
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| -q 9 || ~320 || ~320 - ~500 || lossless || no ||
|-
| -q 10 || ~500 || ~500 - ~1000 || lossless || no ||
|}

<div style="margin-left:3px;">
(1)'' Only supported on aoTuVb3 and newer '' 
(2)'' Bitrate of 48 kbit/s is only for aoTuVb3 and newer. Earlier versions and Xiph.org versions use a bitrate of 45 kbit/s '' 
(3)'' Reports seem to indicate that aoTuVb4.51 -q 1 provides good quality for streaming '' 
(4)'' Most users agree -q 5 achieves transparency''

To know what lowpass frequencies are used for each quality level, see ha thread [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15049&st=160&p=357461&#entry357461 here].
</div>

=Advanced Encoder Settings=

===Reducing Pre-echo===
''This is applicable to Vorbis 1.1; it may or may not be applicable to aoTuVb4 or aoTuVb4.51.''

Generally, using the recommended settings above will give the best quality. There may be cases where Vorbis 1.1 will fail to reproduce sharp attacks or transients in your music, causing [[pre echo]]. In which case, you can use the '''impulse_noisetune''' advanced encode switch:

'''oggenc -q '''n''' --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=p inputfile.wav'''
:'''where p is a number from 0 to -15'''
:e.g. '''oggenc -q '''5''' --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=-5 inputfile.wav'''

Note that the lower the number (toward -15) for impulse_noisetune, the higher the bitrate will fluctuate in passages of music filled with transient attacks (and the final average bitrate may be much higher than the nominal). Therefore, you should try a small value to start off (say '''-5''') and see if you get acceptable quality. If not, tweak it lower.

===Reducing noise due to microattacks===
''This is only valid for some Vorbis encoders that are marked as having '''''impulse_trigger_profile'''.

There are certain parts of some types of music, called "microattacks", where Vorbis will produce a noise (sort of like a puff of steam), which is due to inaccuracies in the block-switching algorithm ''(which can't be corrected)''. Due to the fact the attacks are so fine and close together, Vorbis doesn't switch to impulse short blocks enough, thus "smearing" the reproduction.

By default (with no additional switches), Vorbis selects a different profile for block switching (lower means less switching, higher means more switching) and the default values are shown in the table below:

{| border="0" style="margin-left: 150px; color:green; background-color:white; border:1px dotted green; text-align:center;" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! Quality !! Profile !!   !! Quality !! Profile
|-
| -1 || 0 || || 5 || 2.5
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 0 || 1 || || 6 || 2.7
|-
| 1 || 1 || || 7 || 3
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 2 || 1.5 || || 8 || 3.7
|-
| 3 || 2 || || 9 || 4
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
| 4 || 2 || || 10 || 4
|}

If you encounter this problem on microattacks, you may try the impulse_trigger_profile advanced encode switch, which will change (increase) the profile to your desired value.

'''oggenc -q n --advanced-encode-option impulse_trigger_profile='''r''' inputfile.wav'''
:''where'' '''r''' ''is a number from 0 to 4, fractions accepted.''

'''Notes:'''
* There is the possibility that relaxed block switching (higher profiles) may cause other quality problems and create suboptimal Vorbis files. Please use it sparingly and with caution. If in doubt, leave impulse_trigger_profile on default ''(that is, don't use it at all)''
* Setting the profile too high will make Vorbis switch to impulse short blocks more often, which will lead to higher bitrate fluctuations. So be conservative.
* This settings has no effect on reducing the level of pre-echo. It can be said to only reduce the ''likelihood'' of [[Pre echo|pre echo]], but the amount of pre-echo is tuned using the '''impulse_noisetune''' switch instead.
* You may try profiles 5 and 6 as substitutes for 3 and 4. Profile 5 and 6 came from 3 and 4 in GT3b2.

You can use both impulse_noisetune and impulse_trigger_profile at the same time, but you will need separate switches, e.g.

oggenc -q n --advanced-encode-option impulse_noisetune=p
--advanced-encode-option impulse_trigger_profile=r inputfile.wav

Foobar2000:Oggpreview

2006-03-04T19:59:15Z

Norz: /* Oggpreview */ info about quality and link to main ogg vorbis page

==Oggpreview==
*'''''File name format''''': choose the name format of your future preview
*'''''Path for files''''': choose the future path of the file
*'''''Vorbis encoding quality''''': choose the quality of the preview, 10 is the best, -1 the worst. Note: quality -1 can be perfectly acceptable for a preview, while saving space. ([http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Recommended_Ogg_Vorbis#Recommended_Encoder_Settings Details]).
*'''''Target'''''

*'''''Size''''': choose the size of the preview
*'''''length''''': Choose the length of the preview

*'''''Use Replaygain''''': use replaygain information to create the preview.
*'''''Copy all source tags to the ogg''''': will copy the tags of the files into the ogg preview
*'''''Mutlialbum mode''''': will enable the multialbum mode

==GO back to [[Foobar2000:Contextual menu]]==

Foobar2000 Talk:Oggpreview

2006-03-04T19:48:01Z

Norz:

2006-03-04 Norz

The explanation of this option should be a little more detailed:

''Use Replaygain: use replaygain information to create the preview. For more information about replaygain, see here:[[''

Does it use existing replaygain info from source files or does calculate replaygain of the newly created files (this seems more appropriate)?

Approximately what impact does it have on speed?

Thank you for this great source of information. :)

Talk:Hydrogenaudio Listening Tests

2006-02-28T18:03:22Z

Norz:

2006-02-28 Norz: added guruboolez' 96kbps test, no time to detail versions of encoders used. If someone feels like adding this info, please feel free!

Hydrogenaudio Listening Tests

2006-02-28T18:00:12Z

Norz: /* Multiformat Tests */ added 96kbps test (in french) by guruboolez

From time to time, HydrogenAudio members conducted listening tests, either public ones or private ones. These listening test should be valuable in gauging the performance of various digital audio techniques, e.g. compression, transcoding, etc., '''on a certain point in time'''.

It should be noted that these tests '''may become obsoleted''' by newer enhancements in the techniques. So please ensure that there's no newer tests before drawing conclusions.

This page contains links to Listening Tests carried out by various members of HydrogenAudio.

When you read the test results, you may happen upon many unfamiliar terminologies, especially concerning ''artifacts''. [http://ff123.net/training/training.html ff123's Artifact Training Page] is the place to go to understand what these 'artifacts' are all about.

'''Note:''' There are no such things as listening tests for [[Lossless]] compression. There are only performance tests (e.g. compression ration, encode/decode speed, etc). So, check out the [[Lossless comparison|Lossless comparison page]] instead.

=Format-specific Tests=

==[[AAC]]==

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#ffaaaa"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2004-12-09
| style="width:174px" | Ahead vs Apple 128-kbps Classical
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | iTunes 4.1.052, 4.7.042; Nero 2.5.9.7, 2.9.998 CBR, 2.9.998 VBR
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29924&view=findpost&p=258644 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-09-05
| 48- & 64-kbps HE-AAC Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| CT aacPlus v.2 48- & 64-kbps Helix 11.0.0.1897, Nero 3.2.0.20 VBR
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=36868&view=findpost&p=325091 HA Thread]
|-
| 2006-02-05
| 48-kbps HE-AAC Classical
| Ivan Dimkovic
| Public
| Nero HE-AAC v1 & v2
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=41191&hl= HA Thread]
|}

==[[MP3]]==

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#aaffaa"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2004-01-18
| style="width:174px" | Dithering Test (1) Special
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | [[MP3]] Decoders: MAD, [[LAME]], Fraunhofer, foobar2000
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17728&view=findpost&p=174740 HA Thread]
|-
| 2004-11-15
| 130-kbps LAME rjamorim
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[LAME]] 3.90.3 ABR, 3.96.1 ABR, 3.96.1 VBR
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29422&view=findpost&p=253968 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-01-11
| 128-kbps LAME ff123
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[LAME]] 3.90.3, 3.96.1, 3.97a5
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=30547&view=findpost&p=264411 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-10-17
| [[LAME]] 3.98 -V5 Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[LAME]] 3.98: -V5, -V5 --vbr-new, -V5 --vbr-new --athaa-sensitivity 1
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=37973&view=findpost&p=335086 HA Thread]
|}

'''''Notes:'''
(1) Performed under extreme listening conditions not reproducible on daily listening.''

==[[MPC]]==

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#aaaaff"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2005-06-18
| style="width:174px" | --standard Classical
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | 1.01j, 1.15u
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=34911&view=findpost&p=306910 HA Thread]
|}

==[[Vorbis]]==

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#ffffaa"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2003-06-18
| style="width:174px" | 128-kbps ff123/rjamorim
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | GT2 & PCVS
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10555&view=findpost&p=106189 HA Thread]
|-
| 2004-06-17
| 160-kbps Special
| Guruboolez
| Private
| CVS, GT3b2, [[aoTuV]]b2, [[aoTuV]]b2+QK
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=22495&view=findpost&p=218681 HA Thread]
|-
| 2004-02-05
| -q4 Transients
| Guruboolez
| Private
| RC3 2002-03, RC3 2002-04, 1.01, 1.01 QK2
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18359&view=findpost&p=180697 HA Thread]
|}

==[[WMA]]==

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#ffaaff"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2003-06-18
| style="width:174px" | 128-kbps ff123/rjamorim
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | [[WMA]]9 Standard & Pro
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10551&view=findpost&p=106158 HA Thread]
|}

=Multiformat Tests=

{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" style="text-align:center;"
|- style="background:#aaffff"
! Date !! Title Samples !! Performed by !! Type !! Codecs !! Links
|-
| style="width:064px" | 2003-10-11
| style="width:174px" | 130-kbps Classical (Baroque)
| style="width:101px" | Guruboolez
| style="width:045px" | Private
| style="width:299px" | [[AAC]] (FAAC, PsyTel, Nero, QuickTime) [[MP3]] [[LAME]] 3.90.3, [[MPC]] 1.14, [[Vorbis]] GT3b1, [[WMA]]9 Pro
| style="width:110px" | [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=14091&view=findpost&p=142684 HA Thread]
|-
| 2003-12-13
| 128-kbps Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[AAC]] (iTunes, Nero, FAAC), [[Vorbis]] 1.01, [[WMA]]9, [[MP3]] [[LAME]] 3.93.1
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16395&view=findpost&p=163116 HA Thread]
|-
| 2004-07-12
| 175-kbps Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[Vorbis]] Megamix -q5,50, -q5,99 -q6,00 [[MP3]] [[LAME]] 3.97a3 -V3, -V2, [[MPC]] -q5
|
[http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23355&view=findpost&p=225046 HA Thread]
|-
| 2004-12-09
| 130-kbps Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[AAC]] Nero 2.9.9.998 [[Vorbis]] aoTuVb3
|
[http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=29925&view=findpost&p=258645 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-03-05
| 140-kbps VBR Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[AAC]] Nero 3.0.0.4, [[Vorbis]] 1.1, QK28
|
[http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=32080&view=findpost&p=279240 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-03-17
| 256-kbps Transcode from MP3 subset of ff123
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[AAC]] iTunes 4.7, [[MP3]] [[LAME]] 3.97a8 [[MPC]] 1.15u, [[Vorbis]] aoTuVb3, [[WavPack]] 4.2b3 Lossy
|
[http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=32440&view=findpost&p=282909 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-07-11
| 80-kbps Various
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[LAME]] [[MP3]], [[AAC]]-HE and -LC, [[Vorbis]] [[aoTuV]], [[WMA]] Std
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35438&view=findpost&p=312296 HA Thread]
|-
| 2005-08-09
| 96-kbps Classical & Various
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[LAME]] [[MP3]], [[AAC]],[[Vorbis]] [[aoTuV]] (Lancer), [[MPC]], [[WMA]]
| [http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/VideoSon/MP3-WMA-AAC-OGG-qualite-kbps-evaluation-sujet-84950-1.htm#t922011 Hardware.fr thread (in French)]
|-
| 2005-08-22
| 180-kbps Classical
| Guruboolez
| Private
| [[AAC]], [[MP3]], [[MPC]], [[Vorbis]] [[aoTuV]]b4
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=36465 HA Thread]
|-
| 2006-01-13
| 128-kbps General
| Sebastian Mares
| Public
| iTunes & Nero [[AAC]], [[LAME]] [[MP3]], [[Vorbis]] [[aoTuV]], [[WMA]] Pro
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=40607&view=findpost&p=357117 HA Thread] [http://www.maresweb.de/listening-tests/mf-128-1/results.htm Complete Results]
|}

=External Tests=
Other people also held listening tests outside of Hydrogenaudio (although the organizer of the tests are usually HA members :)

So, check out the following sites:
* [http://ff123.net/ ff123's site on audio testing and listening tests]
* [http://www.rjamorim.com/test/index.html Roberto's Public Listening Tests]
* [http://www.soundexpert.info/ SoundExpert Listening Tests]

Foobar2000 Talk:Oggpreview

2006-02-10T09:43:54Z

Norz:

I think the explanation of this option should be a little more detailed:

''Use Replaygain: use replaygain information to create the preview. For more information about replaygain, see here:[[''

Does it use existing replaygain info from source files or does calculate replaygain of the newly created files (this seems more appropriate)?

Approximately what impact does it have on speed?

Thank you for this great source of information. :)

Foobar2000 Talk:Oggpreview

2006-02-10T09:43:14Z

Norz:

2006-02-10 Norz:

I don't understand how the explanation of this option:

''Use Replaygain: use replaygain information to create the preview. For more information about replaygain, see here:[[''

Does it use existing replaygain info from source files or does calculate replaygain of the newly created files (this seems more appropriate)?

Approximately what impact does it have on speed?

Thank you for this great source of information. :)

Foobar2000 Talk:Oggpreview

2006-02-10T09:42:44Z

Norz:

I don't understand how the explanation of this option:

''Use Replaygain: use replaygain information to create the preview. For more information about replaygain, see here:[[''

Does it use existing replaygain info from source files or does calculate replaygain of the newly created files (this seems more appropriate)?

Approximately what impact does it have on speed?

Thank you for this great source of information. :)

Foobar2000 Talk:Oggpreview

2006-02-10T09:41:18Z

Norz:

I don't understand how the explanation of this option:
''Use Replaygain: use replaygain information to create the preview. For more information about replaygain, see here:[[''
Does it use existing replaygain info from source files or does calculate replaygain of the newly created files (this seems more appropriate)?
Approximately what impact does it have on speed?
Thank you for this great source of information. :)

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2005-10-31T19:22:45Z

Norz: /* k */

For new users, the page should tell (roughly) what's in the normal, special and lite installer. And help them deciding between the 3 versions. I searched on the page and on the newbie guide, and didn't see anything. I don't know if Columns UI + common panels is included in one of these installers, but that would be nice. --User:norz, 2005-10-31
----

I'm using Mozilla and it displays correctly unless I try to select it. I think it's best to have the correct code in there though, even at the expense of this bizarre behavior. I avoided writing it like that because of that problem. Thanks. :) --[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 23:07, 14 Feb 2005 (CST)
----
I just put the code in the 'Basic Color Codes' section into code blocks for ease of reading, but found I had to use IE to do the editing since firefox couldn't handle the block chars in the edit panel. Firefox seems to display them fine though. Is this going to be a problem? Thought I should ask before I tried to do the same for the rest of the page. - krazy

----

Thanks, krazy, for the link to picmixer's masstagger guide. :) I moved it to the end of the masstagger section because I think it makes more sense there.--[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 22:45, 13 Feb 2005 (CST)

----

Reversed order of discussion posts (newer at top). Thanks, krazy, for pointing out foo_looks was problematic.

--[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 15:07, 13 Feb 2005 (CST)

----

Removed references to foo_looks and replaced with foo_ui_gfx. It's just that I don't think a [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17872 potential troublemaker] should be on the wiki page. Other than that, looking good!

----
Krazy, I moved your "Commonly Used Panel Extensions" down into the Columns UI section of the Beginner's Guide, I hope you don't mind.
-topdownjimmy
----

Why use the underscore in the LAST_PLAYED tag? A space works just as well, is completely compliant, and is much easier to type.
-Canar

apparently firefox doesnt like the colour code markers in the slightest, they seem to have got a bit messed up in my edit, sorry. also maybe someone wants to take notice/work on this:
WARNING: This page is 35 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. --[[User:Musicmusic|musicmusic]] 17:10, 4 Apr 2005 (CDT)

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I edited the trackinfo section to reflect Jan's suggestion made [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33003&hl= here]. [[User:Beto|Beto]] 08:26, 5 Apr 2005 (CDT)

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2005-10-31T19:22:23Z

Norz: k

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2005-10-31T19:22:06Z

Norz:

Foobar2000 Talk:Foobar2000

2005-10-31T19:21:37Z

Norz:

For new users, the page should tell (roughly) what's in the normal, special and lite installer. And help them deciding between the 3 versions. I searched on the page and on the newbie guide, and didn't see anything. I don't know if Columns UI + common panels is included in one of these installers, but that would be nice. --User:norz, 2005-10-31

I'm using Mozilla and it displays correctly unless I try to select it. I think it's best to have the correct code in there though, even at the expense of this bizarre behavior. I avoided writing it like that because of that problem. Thanks. :) --[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 23:07, 14 Feb 2005 (CST)
----
I just put the code in the 'Basic Color Codes' section into code blocks for ease of reading, but found I had to use IE to do the editing since firefox couldn't handle the block chars in the edit panel. Firefox seems to display them fine though. Is this going to be a problem? Thought I should ask before I tried to do the same for the rest of the page. - krazy

----

Thanks, krazy, for the link to picmixer's masstagger guide. :) I moved it to the end of the masstagger section because I think it makes more sense there.--[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 22:45, 13 Feb 2005 (CST)

----

Reversed order of discussion posts (newer at top). Thanks, krazy, for pointing out foo_looks was problematic.

--[[User:Topdownjimmy|Topdownjimmy]] 15:07, 13 Feb 2005 (CST)

----

Removed references to foo_looks and replaced with foo_ui_gfx. It's just that I don't think a [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=17872 potential troublemaker] should be on the wiki page. Other than that, looking good!

----
Krazy, I moved your "Commonly Used Panel Extensions" down into the Columns UI section of the Beginner's Guide, I hope you don't mind.
-topdownjimmy
----

Why use the underscore in the LAST_PLAYED tag? A space works just as well, is completely compliant, and is much easier to type.
-Canar

apparently firefox doesnt like the colour code markers in the slightest, they seem to have got a bit messed up in my edit, sorry. also maybe someone wants to take notice/work on this:
WARNING: This page is 35 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. --[[User:Musicmusic|musicmusic]] 17:10, 4 Apr 2005 (CDT)

----

I edited the trackinfo section to reflect Jan's suggestion made [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33003&hl= here]. [[User:Beto|Beto]] 08:26, 5 Apr 2005 (CDT)