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All programs mentioned anywhere in the wiki can be downloaded here.
See also the [[:Category:Software|Software Category]] article for more software not listed here.

==CD Rippers==
===Windows===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #75A3FF; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#75A3FF"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:500px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[CDex]]
| GPL
| [http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | An open-source ripper for Windows that uses cdparanoia functionality
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[DBpowerAMP with AccurateRip|dBpoweramp]]
| commercial
| [http://www.dbpoweramp.com/ here]
| align="left" | A secure ripper for Windows that includes Accurate Stream functionality.
|-
! align="left" | [[EAC]]
| Free
| [http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ here]
| align="left" | A secure ripper for Windows, C2 error pointers, Accurate Stream, etc.
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[fre:ac ]]
| GPL
| [http://www.freac.org/ here]
| align="left" |
fre:ac is a free audio converter and CD ripper with support for various popular formats and encoders. Plus supports the CDDB/freedb online CD database which allows you query song information.
|}

===Mac OS X===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #bbffbb; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#bbffbb;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:500px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[Max]]
| GPL
| [http://sbooth.org/Max/ here]
| align="left" | A secure ripper for OS X that uses additional cdparanoia functionality
|-
|- style="background-color:#eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[XLD]]
| GPL
| [http://tmkk.pv.land.to/xld/index_e.html here]
| align="left" | X Lossless Decoder(XLD) is a tool for Mac OS X that is able to decode/convert/play various 'lossless' audio files. The supported audio files can be split into some tracks with cue sheet when decoding. Can convert between many lossless and lossy formats. Plugin oriented design, for easy exchange for new encoders.
|}

===Linux===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FF8533; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FF8533;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | abcde
| GPL
|[http://code.google.com/p/abcde/ here]
| align="left" | A command-line based ripper with cdparanoia functionality
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[cdparanoia]]
| BSD, GPL
| [http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/ here]
| align="left" | One of the first secure standalone rippers for the Linux platform
|-
! align="left" | Grip
| GPL
| [http://sourceforge.net/projects/grip/ here]
| align="left" | An open-source Gnome interface ripper that uses cdparanoia functionality
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[Rubyripper]]
| GPL
| [http://code.google.com/p/rubyripper/ here]
| align="left" | A secure ripper for the Linux that uses additional cdparanoia functionality
|}

==CD/DVD Writers==
===Windows===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #75A3FF; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#75A3FF"
! style="width:185px;" | Name
! style="width:80px;" | Unicode
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:270px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[Burrrn]] (CDA only)
| N
| Free
| [http://www.burrrn.net/ here]
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | CDBurnerXP
|
| Free
| [http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ here]
|
|-
! align="left" | DeepBurner
| N
| GPL
| [http://www.deepburner.com/ here]
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | InfraRecorder
| N
| GPL
| [http://infrarecorder.org/ here]
|
|-
|}

===Mac OS X===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #bbffbb; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#bbffbb;"
! style="width:130px;" | Name
! style="width:80px;" | Unicode
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:310px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | DVD-Audio Tools
| Y
| GPL
| [http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Open-source DVD-Audio authoring application
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | FireStarter FX
| N
| Free
| [http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=FireStarter_FX here]
| align="left" | Free OS X Cocoa CD writing application
|-
! align="left" | X-CD-Roast
| N
| Free
| [http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/xcdrosX.html here]
| align="left" | New OS X port of this Linux CD writing application
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | Burn
| N
| Free
| [http://burn-osx.sourceforge.net/Pages/English/home.html/ here]
| align="left" | Versatile CD/DVD authoring application
|}

===Linux===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FF8533; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FF8533;"
! style="width:130px;" | Name
! style="width:80px;" | Unicode
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! align="center" style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | CDRDAO
| N
| GPL
| [http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Cdrdao records audio or data CD-Rs in disk-at-once (DAO) mode
|- style="background-color:#eeeeee;"
! align="left" | DVD-Audio Tools
| Y
| GPL
| [http://dvd-audio.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Open-source DVD-Audio authoring application
|-
! align="left" | GnomeBaker
| N
| GPL
| [http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnomebaker/ here]
| align="left" | Popular open-source Gnome interface CD/DVD writing application
|- style="background-color:#eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[K3b]]
| N
| GPL
| [http://www.k3b.org/ here]
| align="left" | Popular open-source KDE CD writing application for Linux platform
|-
! align="left" | X-CD-Roast
| Y
| GPL
| [http://www.xcdroast.org here]
| align="left" | New open-source Gnome interface CD/DVD writing application
|- style="background-color:#eeeeee;"
! align="left" | Brasero
| N
| GPL
| [http://projects.gnome.org/brasero/ here]
| align="left" | Brasero is a application to burn CD/DVD for the Gnome Desktop.(Gnome Default)
|}

==Multimedia Players==
===Windows===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #75A3FF; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#75A3FF"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! align="center" style="width:500px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[foobar2000]]
| Free, BSD
| [http://www.foobar2000.org/ here]
| align="left" | Advanced tagging, plugin capabilities, and kernel streaming support
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[MediaMonkey]]
| Free, Shareware
| [http://www.mediamonkey.com/ here]
| align="left" | Supports many Winamp plugins
|-
! align="left" | VUplayer
| Free
| [http://www.vuplayer.com/ here]
| align="left" | Supports many popular digital audio codecs and MOD tracker formats
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[Winamp]]
| Free, Shareware
| [http://www.winamp.com/ here]
| align="left" | Popular audio player for Windows
| align="left" |
|-
! align="left" | [[VLC]]
| LGPL
| [http://www.videolan.org/vlc// here]
| align="left" | VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs VCDs, and various streaming protocols.
|}

===Players / Source code ===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #ccccff; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#ccccff"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! align="center" style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | MusikCube
| BSD
| [http://www.musikcube.com/ here]
| align="left" | Supports dynamic playlists and advanced SQL capabilities
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[wxMusik]]
| GPL
| [http://sourceforge.net/projects/musik.berlios/ here]
| align="left" |A cross-platform open-source audio player
|}

===Mac OS X===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #bbffbb; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#bbffbb;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | Cog
| GPL
| [http://cogosx.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | An open-source digital audio player for OS X.
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | Play
| GPL
| [http://sbooth.org/Play/ here]
| align="left" |Play is an application for playing and managing audio files.
|-
! align="left" | [[VLC]]
| LGPL
| [http://www.videolan.org/vlc// here]
| align="left" | VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video formats as well as DVDs, Audio CDs VCDs, and various streaming protocols.
|}

===Linux===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FF8533; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FF8533;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[Amarok]]
| GPL
| [http://amarok.kde.org/ here]
| align="left" | Popular open-source KDE audio player similiar to Foobar2000
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | Audacious
| [http://opensource.org/docs/osd OSD]
| [http://audacious-media-player.org/ here]
| align="left" |Audacious is an open source audio player
|-
! align="left" | Clementine
| GPL
| [http://www.clementine-player.org/ here]
| align="left" | Cross platform media player, a port of [[Amarok]] 1.4 to the Qt 4 and GStreamer framework, can be controlled with a Wii remote
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | DeaDBeeF
| GPL
| [http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Lightweight music player for Linux, GUI similar to [[Foobar2000]]
|-
! align="left" | [[Rhythmbox]]
| GPL
| [http://projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/ here]
| align="left" | GNOME music player
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[VLC]]
| LGPL
| [http://www.videolan.org/vlc// here]
| align="left" | VLC media player is a highly portable multimedia player and multimedia framework capable of reading most audio and video formats as well as DVDs, |Audio CDs VCDs, and various streaming protocols.
|-
! align="left" | [[XMMS]]
| GPL
| [http://www.xmms.org/ here]
| align="left" | Popular open-source audio player similiar to Winamp
|}

=== Console players ===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #CC33CC; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#E1A6FF;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:90px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:350px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | mpg123
| LGPL
| [http://www.mpg123.org/ here]
| align="left" | mpg123 is a real time MPEG audio player/decoder
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | mplayer for windows
| GPL v2
| [http://mplayerwin.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | MPlayer is a free and open source media player.
|
|}

==Tagging Utilities==
===Windows===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #75A3FF; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#75A3FF"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:500px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | MetatOGGer
| Free
| [http://www.luminescence-software.org/ here]
| align="left" | Tags MP3 ([[ID3]]), Ogg files (Vorbis comment, including Ogg FLAC and Speex), Musepack, Windows Media, WavPack et Monkey's Audio
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | MP3 Book Helper
| Free
| [http://mp3bookhelper.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Tags [[ID3v1]], ID3v2.3, and Vorbis comments. Features: FreeDB, unicode, guessing and matching, and supporting PAR, SFV, SV, and NFO generation.
|-
! align="left" | [[MP3tag]]
| Free
| [http://www.mp3tag.de/ here]
| align="left" | Tags all files supporting [[ID3]], [[APEv2]], and [[Vorbis_Comment|Vorbis Comments]], not only MP3s
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[Tag.exe]]
| GPL
| [http://www.synthetic-soul.co.uk/tag/ here]
| align="left" | Command-line universal tagger for Windows
|-
! align="left" | Tag & Rename
| Shareware
| [http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm here]
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | TagScanner
| Free
| [http://www.xdlab.ru/en/index.htm here]
|
|-
! align="left" | WMP Tag Plus 2.0
| Free
| [http://bmproductions.fixnum.org/wmptagplus/ here]
| align="left" | Software to integrate other tag format than [[ID3]] into Microsoft Windows Media Player 11.
|}

===Mac OS X===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #bbffbb; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#bbffbb;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:320px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | Tag
| GPL
| [http://sbooth.org/Tag/ here]
| align="left" | An open-source tagging application for OS X
|}

===Linux===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FF8533; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FF8533;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:450px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[Beets]]
| MIT
| [http://beets.radbox.org/ here]
| align="left" | Cross-platform open source tagging application written in Python, CLI only. Uses the Musicbrainz and Mutagen libraries, still in beta. Mostly automatic, minimal user input required. Many features and plugins. (Read the documentation)
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | EasyTAG
| GPL
| [http://easytag.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | Gnome tagging utility
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" |
|-
! align="left" | Puddletag
| GPLv3
| [http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/index.html here]
| align="left" | Puddletag is a Linux audio tag editor similar to Mp3tag
|}

==Encoders, Decoders, Etc.==
All basic tools needed to make use of the audio formats supported here.

{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FF0099; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FF66CC;"
! style="width:100px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:500px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | [[MP3]]
| GPL
| [http://lame.sourceforge.net/ here]
| align="left" | LAME is a lossy audio compression,
Download win32 binaries [http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html here], [http://sourceforge.net/projects/lame/files/lame/ source code],

[[MP3Gain]], a ReplayGain-like utility: [http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.php download here]
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[Opus]]
| GPL
| [http://www.opus-codec.org/ here]
| align="left" | Opus is a totally open, royalty-free codec. It is primarily designed for interactive speech and music transmission over the Internet, but is also applicable to storage and streaming applications.
discussion in the opus [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=71 Forum] Download win32 [https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/opus/win32/ binaries]
|-
! align="left" | [[Musepack]]
| GPL
| [http://www.musepack.net/index.php?pg=enc here]
| align="left" | Musepack is a lossy audio compression,
Download MPC for [http://www.musepack.net/index.php?pg=win Windows] [http://www.musepack.net/index.php?pg=lin Linux] [http://musepack.net/index.php?pg=osx Mac OS X] [http://www.musepack.net/index.php?pg=src source code]
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[FLAC]]
| GPL
| [http://xiph.org/flac/index.html here]
| align="left" | FLAC is a lossless audio compression,
CoolEdit / Adobe Audition Filter supporting FLAC: [http://www.vuplayer.com/other.php here]

Various FLAC-related utilities are available on FLAC [http://xiph.org/flac/download.html download] page.

[http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/flac-dev flac-dev] 1.3.0 - [http://downloads.xiph.org/releases/flac/ source code], win32 binaries [http://www.saunalahti.fi/~cse/temp/flac-1.3.0-win32.zip here] [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=99803&view=findpost&p=835472 here] Flac 1.3.0 [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=101082 discussion]
|-
! align="left" | qaac
| GPL
| [https://sites.google.com/site/qaacpage/home here]
| align="left" | qaac is a command line AAC/ALAC encoder frontend based on Apple encoder,
Download qaac for windows [https://sites.google.com/site/qaacpage/cabinet here]
discussion in the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=85135 Forum]
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[WavPack]]
| GPL
| [http://www.wavpack.com/ here]
| align="left" | WavPack is a hybrid lossless wavefile compressor.
discussion in the WavPack [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showforum=68 Forum], Download WavPack for windows [http://www.wavpack.com/ here] Linux [http://www.wavpack.com/wavpack-4.70.0.tar.bz2 here] Source code [https://github.com/dbry/WavPack here]
|-
|}

===Ogg [[Vorbis]]===
Currently, all recommended Ogg Vorbis utilities are available at the [http://www.rarewares.org/ogg.html Rarewares Ogg Vorbis page]. The following tools are important:

* '''OggEnc2''': A command-line Ogg Vorbis encoder that can be used with most CD rippers.

* '''OggDec''': Command-line decoder.

* '''[[OggDropXPd]]''': An easy to use, drag'n'drop encoder/decoder with support for automatic tagging, renaming and playlist creation on encoding.

* ''Encoding DLLs'': For encoding within CDex or WinLame.

* '''VorbisGain''': The [[ReplayGain]] utility for Ogg Vorbis.

In addition, the [[Lancer]] suite — a highly SSE-optimized suite of utilities and libraries — are available at [http://homepage3.nifty.com/blacksword/ this page] ''(in Japanese)''. See [[Lancer#Platform-specific Builds|this section]] for information about the different builds.

==Transcoders==
''Note: Although these tools may convert from one encoding to another, please remember that [[transcoding]] to any [[lossy]] encoding will result in a degraded quality.''
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #99FF99; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#99FF99;"
! style="width:150px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:270px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | dBpowerAMP
| Shareware
| [http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm here]
| align="left" | dBpoweramp Music Converter
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" |
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[foobar2000]]
| Freeware
| [http://www.foobar2000.org/encoderpack here]
| align="left" | foobar2000 Free Encoder Pack
|-
! align="left" | [[fre:ac ]]
| GPL
| [http://www.freac.org/ here]
|
|-style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | TAudioConverter
| GPL
| [http://sourceforge.net/projects/taudioconverter/ here]
| align="left" | discussion in the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=98327 Forum]
|-
! align="left" | MediaCoder
| GPL
| [http://www.mediacoderhq.com/ here]
|
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[Winamp]]
| Shareware
| [http://www.winamp.com/ here]
|
|-
! align="left" | WinLAME
| GPL
| [http://winlame.sourceforge.net/ here]
|
|}

==Processing utilities==
===Windows===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #33CCFF; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#33CCFF;"
! style="width:120px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:500px;" | Description
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | [[lossyWAV]]
| GPL
| [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=56129&view=findpost&p=504087 here]
| align="left" | lossyWAV is a lossy pre-processor for [[Wikipedia:Pulse-code modulation|PCM]] (uncompressed) WAV files. It reduces [[Wikipedia:Audio bit depth|bit depth]] of the input signal, which, when used in conjunction with certain lossless codecs, reduces the bitrate of the encoded file significantly.
|}
Note: Windows users may require the pthreadGC2.dll for lossywav to Run: [http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/sourceware.org/pub/pthreads-win32/prebuilt-dll-2-9-1-release/dll/x86/ x86] v2.9.1.0

==Drivers==
===ASPI===
{| border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" style="text-align:center; border:2px solid #FFFF66; margin-bottom: 20px;"
|- style="background:#FFFF66;"
! style="width:160px;" | Name
! style="width:100px;" | License
! style="width:100px;" | Website
! style="width:300px;" | Description
|-
! align="left" | Ahead Nero ASPI Driver
|
| [ftp://ftp6.nero.com/wnaspi32.dll here]
| align="left" | wnaspi32.dll
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | Adaptec Windows ASPI Package
|
| [http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/support/_eol/scsi_sw/aspi-4.70/ here]
| align="left" | adaptec aspi
|-
! align="left" | ForceASPI
|
| [http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm here]
| align="left" | forceaspi
|- style="background-color: #eeeeee;"
! align="left" | ASPI4all
|
| [http://www.cdr-zone.com/software/aspi_layers/aspi4all.html here]
| align="left" | via cdr-zone.com
|-
! align="left" | FrogAspi
|
| [http://www.frogaspi.org/ here]
| align="left" | frogaspi
|-
|-
! align="left" | VOB ASAPI Driver
|
| [http://www.rarewares.org/files/ASAPI.exe here]
| align="left" | ASAPI.exe 1.3
|}

===Sound===
* ALSA Project [http://www.alsa-project.org/ official website]
* kX Project [http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/ official website]

===Links===
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Talk:Lossless comparison

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Why RKAU - not in test?? It is better then flac, and comparable to optimFrog!

==Page discussion==
Most of the discussion for this page is being done at the [http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=33226 forum]. You may use this talk page to discuss it too.--[[User:Beto|Beto]] 15:50, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

I updated slightly the formatting of this page and added some standard sections.--[[User:Beto|Beto]] 16:10, 5 September 2006 (CDT)

== methinks that ==

the colours on this page were decided by someone on LSD. {{User:Elliottmobile/sig2}} 12:32, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

==BlaBlaTable==
Table... nicer the lower one, no? --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] '''([[User_talk:pepoluan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan|contribs]])''' 12:55, 22 September 2006 (CDT)

:I'll stab whoever messed up my beautiful table in the eyes. {{smiley|)}}
:Why did you get rid of the color templates? Just to make it harder to edit the table?
:What's the point of having to know hex codes by heart to set the call background? The older system was much more intuitive, and less bloated.
: rjamorim - 11:44, 23 September 2006 (CDT)
::Well, it was used in.... this page only, really, and if you used a ''real'' text editor you'd be able to automate it {{smiley|D}} {{User:Elliottmobile/sig2}} 14:46, 24 September 2006 (CDT)
:::It was used in this page because there is no other real comparison table at the wiki, but that doesn't rule out usage in future tables. And as for real text editors: this page is for everyone to edit, not only arrogant people that take pride in using emacs or ultraedit or whatever. ~ rjamorim 15:52, 24 September 2006 (CDT)

::::'''<nowiki>*sigh*</nowiki>''' whatever you say, Roberto {{smiley|)}} But I agree with Elliottmobile that the green is perhaps a bit too green {{smiley|;}}. Anyways, '''a vote:''' Get back to templates or not?
::::''Additional note:'' Even if we decide to get back to templates, I suggest completely rewriting the color templates... they're waaaaaaaay too complex. What's wrong with a simple <code>style="color:blablabla;"</code>? --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] '''([[User_talk:pepoluan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan|contribs]])''' 11:18, 25 September 2006 (CDT)

:::::How come the templates are too complex? You find it hard to use <nowiki>{{ orange }}</nowiki>? And you find it EASIER to use hex color codes? I can't even remember the hex code for orange by heart! ~ rja

::::::'''''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''''' Roberto, I wrote "'''the templates are too complex'''", not "'''using templates are too complex'''". In other words, what I'm trying to say (and I hope this gets into your thick skull :lol:j/k: {{smiley|)}}) is that we should simplify the templates. Comprende, RareJim? {{smiley|;}} --[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] '''([[User_talk:pepoluan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan|contribs]])''' 12:25, 9 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::::First: I'll tell you later who is thick skulled.
:::::::Second: Why, pray tell, you want to simplify them? The colors are abstracted into templates precisely so that average editors don't have to worry about them. They are very adequate for table cell colouring, and that's what matters IMO. ~ rja

::::::::'''''<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*''''' I don't want to start another debate here. I'm just saying that, okay, if you want to use templates, we'll revert. But '''the templates themselves''' need to be simplified. Here, let me show you [[Template:Orange]]:
:::::::: <code><nowiki></nowiki> ! align="right" style="background: #FF9900" |</code>
::::::::What's the use for the <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> pair there? And why <code>align="right"</code>? Both of them can go. The first one is useless, the second one can be put in the table's definition. Thus, we can (and should!) simplify [[Template:Orange]] to:
:::::::: <code>! style="background: #FF9900" |</code>
::::::::Then again, we can simplify it to:
:::::::: <code>! style="background: orange" |</code>
::::::::Then, since most of the colors are now standard HTML colorwords, why not put it directly into the table?
::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] '''([[User_talk:pepoluan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan|contribs]])''' 12:09, 11 October 2006 (CDT)

:::::::::If you don't want to debate, why did you even ask about the new table at the talk page?
:::::::::About the <code><nowiki></nowiki></code> pair: that is a workaround to an issue Jan and I experienced on an earlier version of Mediawiki. If it's gone, all the better.
:::::::::As for html colorwords: I don't trust browsers to stick to standards. I'd rather trust hex. ~ rja

::::::::::Gee, it seems I must always use the most explicit, non-ambiguous sentences with you, Roberto. Alright, here goes.
::::::::::I don't want to debate about "thick-skulled" or "complex templates" or such. Not like, um, "E" and "H" have been doing lately that is.
::::::::::I just tried to fix the table in a way that cleans up the code, and IMO is cleaner and better than a template-hack.
::::::::::Now about ^that (fixing the table), I want inputs from the wiki maintainers; as it seemed that some (at least, you) object to the removal of color-templates, I ask input whether to revert to template-based table, as previously. But I put in a note, if we do want to revert to the template-based table, the color-templates themselves needs to be cleaned.
::::::::::--[[User:Pepoluan|pepoluan]] '''([[User_talk:pepoluan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/pepoluan|contribs]])''' 15:59, 13 October 2006 (CDT)

:To me the second table is more readable than the original one. I agree with roberto that editing should be easy for anyone, however the syntax of tables in this wiki is not simple even if you use templates. Maybe we could create a section/article with some guidance on editing the this article's table?--[[User:Beto|Beto]] '''([[User_talk:Beto|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Beto|contribs]])''' 09:24, 19 October 2006 (CDT)